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You may well be right. It's difficult to be certain of the situation simply by looking at the bidding and the feedback (or lack of it). Maybe informing buyers (if they can be identified) afterwards is the way to spread the knowledge. At least half a dozen of the coins currently on offer come from last week's Spink auction and have all been overgraded by MP. Lol, Nick, EVERYTHING he gets is upped by at least 1 grade so he can rip the arse out of the coin, it may take years for some of those coins to actually be valued at what these poor people will eventually pay, it's a bit like negative equity in housing, but just in coins now.............Honestly i wish peo´ple would waken up, and before anybody sticks their oar in, i know its not you or i being ripped off, but this makes an arse of the whole collecting scene and might piss people off enough to just give up collecting Th wiining bidder of the wreath is brianscoins, so bidders can always be identified

The problem being Tom is his constant overgrading to enhance the price, as we've seen before from him regarding an 1869 penny he sold at the beginning of the year, bought as an EF from auction, listed as UNC by him, there's quite a difference in price between those 2 grades, he paid EF book price at auction and made a grand because he upped the grade. How he can get away with calling that wreath crown AUNC when its blatantly poloished and a huge dig in the OBV and a rim nick is beyond me, some people really want ripping off from him thats for sure Regarding this particular buyer Nick, he has bought a few things from MP, including the 1869 i have mentioned, although i heard through the grapevine he sent it back because MP had upped the grade, someone had pointed him to the auction where MP bought it from This is how contacts are made, how did surrey coins and victoria bronze also get mixed up in the shill bidding with him? Strange why someone would bid and win on all but 1 auction of his though

If you look at Mr Ps other auctions, the same person is winning 99% of them, i wonder how many he ACTUALLY wins, if any I'm not saying he's a shill bidder, buttttttttttttttttttt

Well cleaned! Is that our friend? He gives a new meaning to "cleaning up". Yup it is, so its the bestest coin of that year you'll ever see, until he gets another that is and drops it in the silver dip by accident etc etc etc

This one is a beauty though, choice near UNC, after a bit of spit and polish, not forgetting the huge dig on the OBV etc, some muppet will buy it, GVF after cleaning http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-GEORGE-V-WREATH-CROWN-EXTREMELY-RARE-/330583898897?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item4cf855fb11

Welcome to the forum mtwc. I have recently found Warwick to be a lost cause for me and haven't bid for 3 sales now. Their low estimates aren't a problem for me, it's the inexplicable prices that are being achieved on low grade milled crap. I hope you enjoyed the ashes series (both of the last 2) as much as I did ;-) Just for Azda (that's cricket Dave, a game played by gentlemen, oh and Aussies) I'd rather watch Newcastle UTD than cricket, better still, watching paint dry would be more exciting Dave, for a man whose nations greatest sporting achievements involve sweeping a sheet of ice infront of a stone with a handle fixed to it, I'll treat your sports knowledge with the contempt it deserves! We are merely a small population of 5 Million plus 2 million sheep, compared to your 37 Million plus 14 million pakistanis and 9 million Poles, your achievements in the sporting world should surpass ours natrually, i'm still waiting for the one thing that the English always come up with..............

Welcome to the forum mtwc. I have recently found Warwick to be a lost cause for me and haven't bid for 3 sales now. Their low estimates aren't a problem for me, it's the inexplicable prices that are being achieved on low grade milled crap. I hope you enjoyed the ashes series (both of the last 2) as much as I did ;-) Just for Azda (that's cricket Dave, a game played by gentlemen, oh and Aussies) I'd rather watch Newcastle UTD than cricket, better still, watching paint dry would be more exciting Spoken like a true Scot! By the way, how did your tennis boy get on against the Spaniard? Our Tennis boy did better than ermmmmmm (how many English boys) actually got so far? I believe Mr Murray has done better in his short career than most of your English boys in their entire careers I bet if he won it though he'd be British, but because he's out now he's Scottish

Welcome to the forum mtwc. I have recently found Warwick to be a lost cause for me and haven't bid for 3 sales now. Their low estimates aren't a problem for me, it's the inexplicable prices that are being achieved on low grade milled crap. I hope you enjoyed the ashes series (both of the last 2) as much as I did ;-) Just for Azda (that's cricket Dave, a game played by gentlemen, oh and Aussies) I'd rather watch Newcastle UTD than cricket, better still, watching paint dry would be more exciting

If one exists in that grade

Thought i'd pop this in here for all the Maundy Money lovers. http://www.maundymoney.info/

Notice he hasn't actually shown us the CGS label ... Anyway, the coin has been 'basted' - what else do you expect? You can see the label on the first link, it does say CGS

It was bought by sidcrampton, he also Said he didn't think its been cleaned

Mine aren't online except what I've posted in these forums. But, if the Tantalus grid is available to all users, then given time I could upload a representative selection to my own version of the grid. Do you have the URL, where we could get started?

But how can you get better than BU? Oh wait, add a plus lol

Hello and welcome. This is whats commonly known as ghosting.

Yet another new grade, do the Americans just make these up as they go along? WTF is BU++ Is'nt BU BU end of? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1864-Indian-Head-Penny-COPPER-NICKEL-SOLID-GEM-BU-/270767673905?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f0b02d231

You can also host the picture on photobucket and then copy and paste the code into your comment and we'll see the picture

I'd say cleaned for starters

I wouldn't be surprised if he bought the 1869 + the 1864, for a negotiated price of $2000 for the pair. Time will tell Mike

...and let's face it, Barack Obama isn't even Barack Obama Is Peck of African Carribean descent then? Are you swinging big guy?

Lol, My point is that it looked like the ice age, in June, in what was supposed to Be Scotlands most best city for sunshine apparently :-/

From JMBs pics the toning does look uneven, maybe the reason he took pics in the dark lol

In order for MP to make any profit from that sale JB would have to have come down quite a distance on that 1869, at the very least $300 just to break even on the figure that MP Sold it for and there's not many dealers who'd come down that distance for such a key date in that grade

rlc35 is another American with a taste of British who is a frequent user of the forum. Welcome to the forum Your Monarch run seems just that, Monarchs without specific denomination, is that your intention, or will you try for a particular series, ie pennies, shilling etc?

You mean all that cleaning he did was in vain? Lol, i don't think it was cleaned Peck, he just could'nt up the grade (like he normally does) because of the obvious wear. The original seller had it listed as AU am sure, 1949 had mentioned it to me sometime this year when we were talking about buying key dates and i said i did'nt agree with jmb4homes grade, it seems i was right, the wear on Britannians legs and on Victoria was evident from the original dark pictures from jmb4home On the flip it was marked at XF which is a VF+ in our terms. The edge bruises were also mentioned.A fair seller it seems. A fair seller thats always wanting book prices unfortunately. Pity other ebay sellers are more ecinomical with the truth