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Here's a link which might be useful to all. The British library is putting the newspapers online from the 1800s to present, although subscription based. http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

I think you misunderstood my intention Michael. I put this on the forum for the seller, she thought it was rare and with lustre, i corresponded with her stating otherwise and pointed her to the predecimal forum. I basically put her ebay pictures up here and asked her to follow my link to this thread so she can see exactly what she had. Its like many sellers on ebay, everything they have is rare and with lustre, this seller obviously wants to learn, and i have already seen her become a member here, so hopefully she can see i was'nt bullshitting when i said it was'nt rare and it was actually cleaned in some way or other. And so, just for the seller of the actual coin, Freeman66 is OBV 6 plus REV G and not the REV I that you thought it might be. Rarity rating is R6 which is 30,001-50,000 made. Also the verdigris is also a huge problem on any Bronze coin, which in effect gives it an even lesser value unfortunately.Sorry you had to find out the hard way Linda, but many collectors also find out this way, this is what forums are for, to hopefully not make so many costly mistakes.

I bethe died with a smile on his face though

I had a pcket from Harlen J Berk take over 4 weeks, i obviously knew where it was considering the length of time it took, and yes, i had to pay fricking tax on it

No, if you look at it carefully, the top serif of the 5 slopes upwards rather than the normal straight line, but then again, better asking the farthing boys

Here's one i found, seller states 1675, but it looks more like a 6 at the end.On enlargement, it is a 5

Items between the EU are not liable for tax Michael, hence i didn't put anything on the packet, it's only outside the EU that tax is payable, albeit over a certain amount.

I don't wish to seem sanctimonious but this problem has cropped up 2000 years ago over a Roman tax. Jesus' answer was sinple "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. Why should we want to cheat either the tax man or a forum god? I have been taxed at UK customs but on the occasions that I pointed out The coin was for my own collection and research purposes the tax was refunded. And look what happened to Ceaser

Gary Speed commited suicide............Geezus, that was a shocker.....

Ok, i'm hoping the ebayer will come onto the forum and look at the thread. She says she's been told lots of conflicting opinions of this coin. So a couple of things, wanting to identify the die pairing and also determine if its been cleaned or not, my guess is it has been, but opinions can always differ................Opinions please.

Ok, i'm hoping the ebayer will come onto the forum and look at the thread. She says she's been told lots of conflicting opinions of this coin. So a couple of things, wanting to identify the die pairing and also determine if its been cleaned or not, my guess is it has been, but opinions can always differ................Opinions please.

Geezus, they should be persuing the seller of the coins to the guy. What a waste of time and money thinking they were genuine all those years and then turn out to be fake

Edge and weigh, its also a halfcrow. The bottom serif s of all the I's on the OBV look wrong to

Agreed with Nick, and with the Sovereigns alone, they make about 250 quid each just in bullion, so there's 5k alone in Sovereign bullion, best to weigh the other mexican and American Gold coins you have. Some pictures of the earlier Sovereigns would be helpful to determine if they are bullion value only or have numastic value, ie: worth more as a collectable coin.

1822 crown

Here's another 2 fakes

Some auction houses are exceeding spink prices. Maybe Take a look through some of the more prominent auction houses results from their paar sales this year

And I would agree with him, don't get too focused on the price books, if you are telling me that compared to auction houses on a specific coin, similar grade coins are selling for less on ebay, then buy them on ebay if you want one, and sell them through the auction house if you have one to sell I think it is too easy to assume that you are comparing similar items. But if you are comparing similar items the above guidance would make perfect sense Here's one in particular, although i think wrongly attributed as UNC, i think is proof. Still not in hand yet and the sellers picture was particularly shite, but the fileds definately look prooflike and seems that the rim is a lot thicker than normal. In total, 22.21 euros paid, but i paid this hoping its the proof i think it is. We'll see when it arrives. Sorry about the small picture, but hopefully you'll see what i mean from it and he only had the REV showing.

More money equals more profit equals shill bidding equals greed. Why is it only auction houses and Martin Platt get book prices or more for coins. Any auctions i watch on fleabay are always wayyyyyy under book prices for rarer or decent graded coins (i can hear John Stephenson now when i say BOOK PRICES) but auction houses seem to work via Spinks book.

Well there we have it, shill bidding is allowed

Judging by stacks prices, i'd go with that

I believe this practise does occur

Of course they are obliged, but it's down to the UK customs to pick out your packet, and judging by the amount of coins people on the forum buy from outside the UK and EU, it almost never happens, whereas in Germany it ALWAYS happens much to my annoyance One last thing on tax, if you are buying gold, after the year 1800, any gold coin is tax free inside the EU

First, it depends where you live, assuming its the UK, then they seem very much relaxed when opening packets from the USA etc. There is no tax to be paid on anything inside the EU, anything outside can be charged tax, but only if they open the package. I live in Germany, and the bar stewards open EVERYTHING from outside the EU, so i have no choice but to pay 7% on the value over 22 euros, under that is free, so i tend to either not buy outside the EU or ask the seller to drop the price on the customs label. I've also bought from an AU auctionhouse, and they had a very clever was of disguising what was inside. It was like a small book, to thick pieces of cardboard, when i opened it, it was like an advertisement for stamps etc, but taped under that was my 500$ worth of coins, very impressed

The postage is worth more than the coin