Peckris

She'll be the antiques dealer, then?

That amount wouldn't even buy you a museum copy. Is your family motto 'Fair prices never paid'? bonus pretium nunquam pensus est

We were talking about copper and bronze pennies...

That's like saying "I'm only interested in cars from 1900 onwards"

Yes unlikely he bought it as a 2+G I suppose, is he just pulling a saxby? I'd give him the benefit of the doubt except that it's still listed as obv. 2 and he says he has higher res images available on request so I don't understand why he didn't use those in the first place! Does eBay charge for the size of picture?

Me too. This coin is still being listed as the 2+G, did either of you get a reply from the seller? He insisted it had 15 leaves in the wreath, so must be obverse 2! I pointed out that the photo wasn't of sufficient quality to examine the leaves but that the position of the bust was the clincher. He didn't reply further! At this point then he's hoping somebody buys it and doesn't send it back. Must be an awkward position to be in though if he actually bought it as a 2+G, but surely now he just has to take the hit? Anyone who forks out good money for a 2+G without knowing their subject is - dare I say it - asking for trouble. Obverse 6 is markedly different from Obverse 2 for those with eyes to see.

Me too. This coin is still being listed as the 2+G, did either of you get a reply from the seller? I didn't get a reply.

The amazing thing is - it passed through 000's of hands before anyone noticed anything wrong

It all depends - as they say - on the variety! Tell you what, if I find all 4 varieties of 1937 penny I'll swap you for a 1922 with 1927 reverse..

Rolex? ROLEX?? What a name! There's a young man who will do.. Her Majesty's Pleasure.

Yes. Rather excessive I think. But then I only use the site for reference too look up designs/ specifications. I've never actually thought of joining myself. And given the T&C doubt that I would. I rather agree with you Christof. Firstly I'd be none to happy giving someone rights to private messages (rather a misnomer if Colnect can do as they wish with them!) and secondly while I'd have no real problems with casual use of images I create, this appears to give them the right to re-use them. Possibly for financial gain, although that part isn't clear. The obvious retort to that, is to add a very obvious watermark to all images you upload - if they want the rights to them, they'll have to take 'em with watermark as well.

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly. Can I write your biography? Oh please, please, please! You'll have to get in quick. I'm already taking bids for the film rights!

And the 1855 "Dot" on Victoria's Forehead, and the 1870 Pronounced "dot" beneath the Y in Penny, plus the 1880, 8 over 8 (ran out of space, can't load that one)! Ha,Ha! Really, that's how it's pronounced? So I suppose anyone born in 1870 could say they were born in "the year dot"... Apart from these: 1904 '4 points to tooth' 1911 Gouby X 1915 'recessed ear' 1916 'recessed ear' 1944 'last 4 points to tooth' 1946 'ONE*' flaw Does anyone have anything not listed in Freeman? (actually Dave Groom lists a couple of other date position varieties, as I recall?) I have the 1946 and 1897 dot flaws, 1916 recessed ear (UNC) but still looking for a Gouby X There's a few different date spacings in the 1890's that Freeman doesn't list - 1899 for example where the last 9 appears further from the first 9. I've also come across an 1869 where the last 9 is a lot higher than the rest of the date.. Are all the different open 3's noted in Freeman as well? I don't have mine to hand Luckily I was helped out by a forum member with the Gouby X. I wouldn't bother with the 1899 to be honest. There's a plethora of different final digit spacings on every date from 1896 to 1899 (at least) - they really don't have any other difference to make them more interesting, and you'd be collecting minute differences forever I reckon. The date spacings on buns in the 1870s are actually entirely separate reverse designs where the wide or narrow date spacing - which itself is quite dramatic - is the most obvious difference.

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly. Can I write your biography? Oh please, please, please!

No, the most boring by far concerns the 1937 penny reverse. There's two MICRO-MICRO varieties, which have something to do with whether the exergue line crosses through a tooth or not. Both are equally common, and I've never even looked to see which mine is, or the proof, as I JUST DON'T CARE I not heard of the exergue example. The pointing of the P in PENNY is the usual way, P to tooth and P to gap. There's two obverse as well. Sorry, my bad! I've just consulted Freeman, and it's sea level not exergue line Shows how much I care...

Very nice I notice you are missing the first two main types of George V (excluding minor sub-types). Might I suggest a 1920 or 1921 for the first, and a 1927 for the large Modified Effigy? None of those would break the bank. Also, perhaps a 1949 and a 1953 to complete the major 20th Century types?

Well yes - if you're a forger!!

If you think the 'wide date' and 'narrow date' reverses are 'hypervarietal', you need to go and study your Freeman! For utter cr--, see the 1937 varieties

AFAIK the only florin in that series that gets faked is the 1932 (for obvious reasons). The 1935 is pretty common, and has no 'fake collectable' interest.

No, the most boring by far concerns the 1937 penny reverse. There's two MICRO-MICRO varieties, which have something to do with whether the exergue line crosses through a tooth or not. Both are equally common, and I've never even looked to see which mine is, or the proof, as I JUST DON'T CARE

In 1999 perhaps!!! Nowadays, the 'casual' computer user wants somewhere to store and play music, upload pictures from their camera, login to various social networks (which can involve a lot of picture sharing), play (and maybe download) videos on YouTube, play the odd game, perhaps buy and / or rent music and films, listen to live radio or TV online, or catch up on programmes they missed. If they're creative they will also use their computers to make music, edit movies, photographs etc, or write. Jeez Rob, where you bin these last 10 years or so? The same place I was the twenty odd years before - Manchester. Right, lets deal with the list. I don't store music, but do listen to the odd track occasionally on you tube. I upload pictures for the site, though the results are sketchy. Don't do social networks apart from this forum and a couple others. Don't download videos or play games. Don't buy or rent music or films. For the first see above, for the second, films are mostly much the same featuring the same old actors time after time. My kids have watched so many films down the years, I could probably make a collage of the snippets seen in passing and say I've seen the lot. I listen to the radio in the car. Don't listen to TV or radio online and rarely regret missing a TV program. Even if I have missed something it wil be repeated on a choice of channels tomorrow. The surfeit of drivel which passes for programming is on the whole uninspiring. I don't mind the odd documentary, but prefer to get my history lessons from books rather than Hollywood. As I said, it's a tool - not the centre of my universe. Ok, I take your point Rob - however, I'd dare to say you're not exactly the 'average computer user' Most people DO use computers for at least some of the things I listed. By the way, you can say what you like about social networks, but when my mum's brother in the States had a complicated operation recently, we were able to exchange news and get constant updates from his children via Facebook. As there were 6 of us involved in this conversation, email just wouldn't have cut it.

Guilty as charged - I have a very good date run of bronze pennies, but fewer farthings, and even fewer halfpennies. Pre-bronze it's a different story.

For what it's worth (extremely boring as both are very common ), you have an example of each of the two varieties of 1905 penny there. The first has the E of PENNY out of correct alignment - it's parallel to the N and angled away from the P - while the second has the three letters PEN in correct rotation to each other. As I say, it's the second most boring 20th Century variety, but I just thought I'd point it out... (Sorry, I just noticed Accumulator has already mentioned it )

Much nicer names than the above! Agnes and Harriet (and probably Florence too) have made a big comeback in the last decade or so.