Peckris

Oh come on! It's got to be worth face value?

It's good that some are shifting and your assessment of average just below EF is roughly what I would have expected. I actually rather like the QE2 sixpences, I think I would have got myself in a complete tangle trying to engrave the various bits of vegetation on the reverse! I will agree about 1950s coins in high grade now becoming rather scarce. Hm, depends how you define 'not that long ago' Declan! I remember as a schoolboy in the late 60s, the scarcer 1950s coins really came into their own (we're talking UNC I assume?) Now that's (gulp) over 40 years ago.. I still have a tin of BU 60s EIIs (halfcrowns down to halfpennies) which I shall now hang onto! Sounds like they might be at long last a-comin' into their own. But I won't hold mah breath.

These coins are very seldom graded below EF but I have a feeling that by rating it as low as fine, we are perhaps jumping straight through VF without stopping. Although it was quite a nice portrait, the obverse detail was always very shallow and as such parts of the design did erode very quickly. When all said and done, a 1967 sixpence has had a maximum of 13 years circulation and unless it was initially a very weak strike, I just don't think that's enough to get it to into the fine category. We can argue about this one, because ultimately it doesn't matter a fig! I'd rate all the obverse as VF apart from the hair detail. Which in my book has to NOT contain completely bald (worn) patches to rate VF. Talking of books, I'll have to consult yours Derek, to see how you graded Liz!! It's a difficult area though. I have a 1919H penny which is better than EF generally, but has virtually NO hair detail at all (due to the common use of worn dies by Heatons). How do you grade that? Virtually impossible.

Possibly! But if there are any women in this forum, then they are RARE CREATURES!! I suspect Hello is a lad.

One of them should be a standard web address, right? If surrounded by html, just strip away the html and make a link as you've done already with your own website.

Fleur De Deity, I should think

I'd say Fine+ for the obverse (not enough hair detail for VF) but the reverse is definitely VF minimum. And as the man said, the value of a 1967 penny, 3d bit, halfpenny or sixpence is nominal, i.e. nothing. Even BU examples are hard to shift. The only items of value are the halfcrown (phased out in '69) and florin (replaced by 10p in 1968), but they really have to be BU.

Peter thing? There is a regular, friendly user here called Peter... Perhaps he's referring to the thing he points at the porcelain?

He's had 12 offers. I might make him an offer of £20 see what he says. I wouldn't. He'll be in a foul mood. I just told him he should have said "If an offer is accepted..." (not "excepted").

Any chance of popping a picture up so we can have a look?

Not so! When you add a playlist to your iPod, it will add it in the order it is sorted by in iTunes. So if you've sorted by title in iTunes, it will add them that way on the iPod. Not so ornery after all. (The same must work for pictures too?)

And people do buy lottery tickets. Come to think of it, you probably have a better chamce with the lottery - at least there are winners every week!

If I catch your drift correctly, you appear to be advocating a return to good old fashioned headhunting ? Not really, just eyeball collection after the owner has no further use for them! Obviously, mounted adds to the value. Avoid ones in any kind of glass storage - obviously those are much lower quality.

Exactly! That's why they are not paying for scrap. Scrap values pay no attention to rarity. They're probably looking to sell them in low-value 99p auctions on eBay. Not a bad return.

My 1973 set of decimal proofs are all badly tarnished. By far the worst one of those early years ~ and that has a red background. I got it very cheap because of the tarnishing, and it's just got even worse since then ~ about 1995. As far as I can tell, there isn't an untarnished 1973 available. You're right - not available, though I am the proud owner of one I think Michael Gouby was selling one a while back, for around £25 ? Not overpriced considering its rarity. To answer the original question - I think you can say that if stored correctly, any toning to these sets should not get worse now. So how would you store them in order to avoid further, or indeed, any tarnishng ? Basically, in a DRY and SALT-FREE (i.e. non-coastal) environment. That will take care of sets where the original seals are wearing or not intact. However, the other main problem is coins reacting with the felt or foam inserts : but the worst of that damage will have been done in the earlier years, and shouldn't get significantly worse now (in my opinion).

True enough - a detector is a kids' toy really! Few owners ever find anything of much value, I guess the fun is in the looking and hoping (like buying a lottery ticket )

Looks like 1836 to me, but it is a William IV groat or fourpence in um... interesting condition! Is it a detector find? I'd second the 1836 estimate (there's a tiny bit of what looks like corrosion confusing the issue slightly, but otherwise it looks a clear enough 6).

Got a buy it now price on that Dave ? I only want one - not into collecting sets...... Biut you would want both a left and a right, surely But make sure you see "in hand" - I've heard of glass fakes doing the rounds...

My 1973 set of decimal proofs are all badly tarnished. By far the worst one of those early years ~ and that has a red background. I got it very cheap because of the tarnishing, and it's just got even worse since then ~ about 1995. As far as I can tell, there isn't an untarnished 1973 available. You're right - not available, though I am the proud owner of one I think Michael Gouby was selling one a while back, for around £25 ? Not overpriced considering its rarity. To answer the original question - I think you can say that if stored correctly, any toning to these sets should not get worse now.

Good luck in your quest, Badger!

Well it's kept me out of mischief this week whilst it has been too wet to play in the garden, and I have honed my imaging skills I'm not too sure myself over all of Michael's date widths, some are very minor, but one could argue that they do represent different dies, even though there was no intent for a design change. We probably need a hierarchy of varieties DELIBERATE: Actual changes to the design, the Peck, Freeman, Gouby Die descriptions (this would include the large and small dates in 1874-7 and 1879, plus the varieties in 1895, 1897 and 1911 and the recessed ears 1915-6, etc) INCIDENTAL: Repairs and repunches (I'd include the "minor" date spacings here, but also the N over Z and overdates) ACCIDENTAL: Missing serifs, F for E, filled letters etc; Flaws:- O'NE, bird's foot etc Not too sure where one puts things like the 1903 with an open 3, we have no way of knowing whether there was a deliberate attempt to change the font, or just someone picked up a 3 punch that was intended for some foreign issue I've been scanning my accumulation for fun, but some of these "varieties" are attracting real money, so someone loves them! David ROFL But haven't you missed one? NITPICKER : Requires a microscope to see!

You've already done it! (With your website link). In the reply box, you've no doubt seen an item that ooks like a short chain (to the right of the smiley). You just select the portion of your post - in this case a Photobucket URL - you want to be 'hot' and click that icon. That will create a clickable link to another site. (But as I say, you must have done this at least once already?)

+ + + STOP PRESS + + + + + + IMPORTANT DISCOVERY + + + I've just been checking through my bun penny collection, and I've found an example with NO EVIDENCE OF ANY VARIETY OUT OF THE NORMAL. Amazingly, this penny is exactly the same as another I have of the same date, apart from wear. How about that? Apparently it has been recorded by Peck, Freeman, Satin, and Gouby. Some of you might find this claim outrageous and impossible to believe, but I assure you, it's true!! And I can put up some scans to show you. How many of you can claim to have anything like this in their own collection? So much for your R18s etc etc etc (yawn).

Hi! Thanks for that. I'm DM'ing you my phone number (if the unaccustomed slowness of the forum tonight will let me)

Yes. You have until a certain date to register your interest in a lot and then after the closing date, it's between you and whoever else has entered the minimum starting bid. You then keep going backwards and forwards until everyone else gives up and you are the last man standing. Can go on for a week or more. Oh right, thanks for that. Presumably the winner is the one whose bid still stands after say, 24 hours, with no further rival bids ? ~ and that everybody is still in the race until that point. From memory, last time I got an email every time I was outbid asking me if I wanted to continue. I think there must be a time limit if they don't hear from you, can't remember what it is though. I think it's called "taking the piss" I'll save my money for auctions where I know when it ends and where my first bid is my only bid (whether highest lowest or derisory compared to others). Some nice looking stuff so good luck to those of you who put yourselves forward for the hassle! Where's the coins? I see the announcement but can't see a link to view the coins There was a sneak preview ad in Coin News Dave. I was wondering the same thing. Why on earth in Coin News? Why not put the coins up on the website to pique our interest? What good is it in a magazine that probably many of us never bother to look at?