Peckris

Definitely the original! Shame - I like jazz. YouTube? HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-Great-Britain-UK-United-Kingdom-Big-SILVER-FLORIN-Coin-King-George-V-i63001-/232497968670?hash=item3621f5761e

It all gets very complicated around the time of the WArs of the Roses. Richard II was succeeded by Henry IV and there is some dispute there. Henry V of Agincourt fame was 'legitimate' heir to Henry IV (if you accept the one, the latter follows). However the following heir Henry VI (also Lancastrian) was a very ineffectual ruler, and his throne was taken by the Yorkist side, with assistance from the very powerful Earl of Warwick. Warwick then changed sides and Henry VI became king again, only to be deposed once more by Edward IV who despite being a womaniser and marrying the commoner Elizabeth Woodville, was considered to be a strong and able ruler. When he died, the remaining Yorkists were determined not to let the throne fall into the hands of the Woodvilles, which was main reason for Richard III taking (or usurping) the throne. Then Margaret Beaufort saw an opportunity for her son Henry Tudor - whose claim to the throne was extremely weak - to invade, which led to Bosworth and the start of the Tudor dynasty. However most modern historians would probably agree that the Plantagenets - as rulers - ended at Bosworth, and Henry Tudor and his son disposed of as many Plantagenet heirs and families as they could.

You could try sending a PM to either Flopsy, Mopsy, or Cotton-tail - they should know the answer.

Not true, surely? One branch descended from the Black Prince, the other from his sibling, but they're all Plantagenets?

The last Plantagenet ruler was Richard III. If, as is possible but not certain, he had the Princes disposed of, it was because the Plantagenets as a whole had a mighty distrust bordering on hatred, of the Woodvilles whom they regarded as ambitious usurpers; one of the Princes, the uncrowned Edward V, was a Woodville, being the son of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville. The Tudors regarded themselves as having a tenuous claim to the throne and set about eliminating all the Plantagenet heirs they saw as having a more significant claim than they did. This of course was one of the reasons that Henry Tudor married into the Yorkist family as it grounded his spurious claim more firmly.

Happy Christmas Gaz Alas, your interpretation is almost completely wrong. First, there was no large scale immigration by Celts - it was more of a cultural invasion, i.e. what we have of Celtic art etc is what was adopted by the indigenous Beaker People. Second, the Iron Age population was largely absorbed into Roman culture, of which a small minority were Christian. Christianity came partly from that source (Romans), then the Irish missionaries in Scotland, and quite a bit later by other missionaries from Rome (St Augustine etc). Up until then, the invading/settling Saxons were pagan. Third, the Iron Age peoples who lived and survived in Roman Britain had adopted Celtic culture which was not Christian at that stage. The horse, for example, was a symbol of fertility, see the White Horse (Wilmington?). As for what you're seeing as a tree is most likely an ear of wheat, as can be seen in more sophisticated form on Westerham coins. An ingenious theory but wrong! Unknown

One of my very very favourites Mike. Only one thing to follow that with - And now for something completely different...

Just a theory ... but for the 1926ME prices, do you think the words ", see App I" has pushed the prices far to the right? You have £20 F £100 VF £600 EF for the 1919KN, so would it be out of the question that you meant £30 F £200 VF £1000 EF for the 1926ME? At the moment, it shows £30 under EF, £200 between EF and Unc, and £1000 under Unc.

To look, rather than buy (at this stage), you could do worse than to study the auction listings of London Coin Auctions, where the lots are well described with good pictures.

My apologies if this was posted already, but I saw it on eBay and thought it was useful that someone had produced such an informative guide to eBay fakes and trickery. (Perhaps it could be put as a Sticky if anyone considers it worthwhile?) http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Fake-British-Coins-On-eBay-/10000000243393016/g.html?_pb=1

Not at all. You mean to tell me you've not heard of that brief denomination, the Corwn? Face value 4s 10d three farthings...

I'm not sure what the ultimate fate of the Taylor dies was?

I found the link by Googling the subject (yes, cute! I especially like the Pathé News style music soundtrack), but wonder if your link above is ok? I got this address on a blank page when I clicked: http://www.predecimal.com/forum/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=16975 applications/core seems somehow suspicious to me?

The most famous example is the Taylor restrikes of George III currency and pattern pieces following his purchase of a bulk lot of dies from Boulton's Soho Mint in the later 19th Century. Many of them were rusted so he spent some time sanding away blemishes before producing a limited series of restrikes "for collectors" (none of the items he produced were still legal tender of course). Many of these restrikes can be identified because of previous unknown obverse / reverse combinations and not having the proper edge collar in some cases. Taylor's work is recorded in CW Peck's book.

I see Pete Townshend playing guitar on one side, and Mr Blobby on the other.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-GEORGE-V-1926ME-MILLED-MODIFIED-COPPER-EFFIGY-PENNY-COIN-023385/350499696909?_trkparms=aid%3D999002%26algo%3DURGENT.LUI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140502134130%26meid%3D0610f73ced624fd0b9444ddeceaa8a12%26pid%3D100043%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26so%3Dlastwatched%26sd%3D362161625621&_trksid=p5713.c100043.m2062 Jeez, £175??? It's exactly the same grade (NF) as the one I was given in change on the school bus in 1968.

I tend to go AT LEAST 5 years between Spinks - an annual Kindle edition of CCGB is good enough for me as I'm not interesting in hammered; ancients don't change prices very often; decent early milled is out of my budget mostly.

Amazing to think that was only done in order to get a good photo of the coin for records.

The telltale on these particular forgeries (Northumberland shillings fall into the same category, and other 'infamous' coins too) is that they have been expertly minted from a die created from an genuine original. They fool experts but put two of them side by side and the truth becomes clear - you see, every single facet of the original has been reproduced which means not only the main elements of the design, but scratches and flaws too. These are like fingerprints - they identify an individual coin from its peers and if there's suddenly several examples all identical, you can guarantee that someone has been up to no good.

Will do. Thanks.

Are football programmes valuable? I have a few of my grandad's - the oldest date back to WW2 and mention things like 'Forces personnel free admission', and what to do if the air raid siren goes. Trouble is, they're mostly Brentford so deeply unfashionable.

No die crack - that would result in a raised line or flaw, not corrosion or decay in the coin surface.

You can't see a preview as this particular forum host doesn't have a "full editor" type of software where such options are available.

I can do all that and more on a Mac, but cannot see a way to do it on iPad.