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How strong is the hobby in Australia, out of interest?

No Bob - dnw describe the variety as such for their upcoming auction. Thought maybe they knew something I didn't - link to item Click Image to Zoom Back to Catalogue Lot Preview (More Information) To be Sold on: 19th & 20th September 2018 Estimate: £300 - £400 ✔ SAVED IN YOUR CABINET! The Collection of Copper and Bronze British Coins Formed by the Late Hiram Brown (Part II) BRITISH COINS, Victoria (1837-1901), Penny, 1860, dies Dd, toothed borders, lc wyon on truncation, lcw below shield, n over sideways n in one (Gouby JA; Bamford –; F 10A; BMC 1629; S 3954). Light scuff in reverse field, about extremely fine, some original colour, streaky on obverse, very rare £300-400

I haven't seen the updated Freeman book, but I gather that the 1860 N over sideways N (Z) is now referred to as a Freeman 10A.

It was an outstanding find and in great condition for a reverse F, for a truly bargain price. So yes, very, very well played Jerry.

It was damned irritating.

On a recent trip to Kew Gardens, I was appalled to find that the cafeteria there, would not accept cash, so I had to use my contactless card. Also, bus companies up and down the country won't accept cash either. Moreover, there are young people now who claim they never carry cash, and just use cards. Although this must be difficult with smaller items, as a number of places still do not hold contactless technology. You'd look mighty strange getting your debit card out to pay for a bag of crisps. Also, how do you contribute to office collections with a debit or credit card? All that said, cash does remain very popular and billions of transactions are still carried out each year using cash. I believe it remains the most popular monetary transaction medium. Especially abroad, where in many countries it is still actively preferred to cards. I am filled with horror at the thought of cash no longer being available, as this negates any chance of anonymity when buying an article, or paying someone for any kind of service, such as tradesmen who frequently offer a discount for cash in hand. I can't see us going cashless for some time yet, if ever. Although I am sure there are those who would like to see this for their own ends. What do others think about this question?

Although collectors are still interested in really ancient coins, so no reason to suppose that pennies won't hold an interest for forthcoming generations. One thing to be very cheerful about is the fact that the internet has brought together the coin collecting community in a way that was never possible before. Pre internet we would often have been quite isolated, save for clubs in Cities.

There are those fine even hairlines in the reverse field. They aren't created randomly.

Although in fairness, it was Richard who posted that topic.

I've actually booked leave for the 19th & 20th September when Part 2 of the Hiram Brown collection is up for auction at dnw. They've already got three pages up for preview, and I strongly suspect there will be more. I've saved several to my cabinet.

OK, GEF then. To be honest I hadn't realised at first that she was a glamour model from the 70's. But I put 2 + 2 together and looked up Penny Irving, born 1955. At 63, she still looks bloody good now !!! Recent pic.

Choice BU. Very desirable.

I made a bid on that F112, and still lost out. Interestingly, the penny was part of John Stephenson's unsolds from that PFK auction last year, which he placed with DNW along with the rest of his unsolds, including some halfcrowns. I think most of them shifted this time, whereas the PFK was a disaster from John's point of view. I believe it was John's late Father who paid over £2k for the 1882 no H. I know all this because I had previously asked John to alert me when the remainder were going to be auctioned, and he did so a couple of weeks ago, highlighting the very low estimates and that the 1882 had been originally bought for over £2k. I also missed on what was quite a decent F38 - bid £500, but went for £550. If I hadn't had to attend yet another useless meeting at work, I could have been on my PC bidding higher. The F38 continues to elude me as it has done for the last several years. As for whether the penny market is dipping, really too difficult to tell. I don't really think so - more likely that many aren't wiling to shell out on poor, albeit very rare varieties. Although the step up from fair/poor to fine seems to make a very significant difference.

So was I. But I did a bit of research and it would appear that lightning doesn't always take the highest and easiest path to Earth. Hence why people get struck in the street walking along, while the tops of nearby houses remain unaffected. In fact it can strike just about anything. explanatory link

Another useful bit of info. Thanks Gary.

Very interesting. Wonder what the story is behind that leaflet.

That is true, although obviously the piece of cutlery which first attracted their attention to what happened, was clearly not itself magnetic, as two magnets repel rather than attract. Yes, the shed was incinerated. There is nothing left of it. Burnt part of the fence down as well. But the house was unaffected as the shed is someway up the garden. It appears lightning isn't always attracted to the highest point. Thanks for the explanations gents - very interesting and enlightening (no pun intended) .

In the early hours of 27th May this year, this area, along with many others in the South and Midlands, experienced some violent electrical storms. I can attest to this fact as I was woken up by one at about 3am. There was another one the following afternoon, not quite as bad. Somebody told me that lightning had struck the shed next door, incinerating it immediately, and certainly there was a fair amount of cloud to ground type lightning. This is where it gets interesting - the couple whose neighbour's shed was struck, tell me that they had some coins on the kitchen working surface, and it was the next day, when the lady put a piece of cutlery close to them, that she noticed some of the coins stuck to it. They had become actual magnets, and her husband placed some on the side of the fridge, as they acted like fridge magnets. Over the course of the following week, the effect weakened, and they've now reverted back to non magnets. The obvious inference is that the temporary magnetism is in some way directly attributable to the close lightning stroke which burned next door's shed. Any scientific explanation to this phenomenon? I'm at a loss. I certainly don't think they've made it up. Another obvious question. Why did it just affect the coins and not the cutlery or any other metals in the house?

As others have said, a fake, and a very obvious one. When you've looked at thousands of real pennies, the fake ones hit you in the eye immediately. The obverse looks more like an obverse 2 than a 6, but that sure ain't no Freeman 38.

Larry, I notice you never quote the post you are commenting on. Always useful to do this as a) it avoids confusion as to who you are referring to, and b ) it alerts the person you have quoted so they can immediately see your post if they want to. If you are unaware of what to do, just click the word "Quote" on the post you wish to reply to.

I've got no real issue paying the tax. What annoys me is the resultant delay in receiving the item.

Thanks Gents. I can see that now. In my defence it was very late at night and I was practically falling asleep, so wasn't fully compus mentis Fortunately others were awake !

Looks absolutely superb, Andrew. (meaning the cabinet as a whole, not just the custom tray)

Just seen this on e bay. On the face of it, a bog standard F29, but what the hell is to the right of the light house, rock wise, and what is that tube like object to the left? To get a clearer view go into the link and see the expanded view - link

Interesting that whenever dnw offer up a Peter Nichols cabinet for auction, they now refer to it as "by St Leonards" as opposed to "by Peter Nichols". Whether this is to distinguish it from those now produced by the new makers, I don't know. link to example in the June 2018 auction