VickySilver

I like this sort of toning on Vicky silver and suspect it may result from storage in a velvet-lined box or similar. Even years ago I could not afford "off year" Vicky silver proofs but did manage to get the proof florins of 1863 and a somewhat scruffy 1881; even the 1853 proofs are going a bit mad and they are not an off year. I suspect the currency 1863 in true mint state would go higher at auction than the proof.

BTW, this graded "62" at PCGS....

Rolled as in through the washing machine....Well known phenom. Also there is the method of "spooning" or tapping the edge.

I completely agree with you and feel they have done much to destroy the collector market and turn lovely Brit coins into “flippables” in the worst USA style. And lest there be protests I will stand on that assessment; I have seen vigorous defense of such marketing strategy - if you want to put it politely. Pointedly if and when the day comes will steer my collection away from such.

I noticed the VERY nice Cope I 1849 Penny will be up for bid at Heritage soon. That is a wonderful coin....I have an MS63 from Glens in the old days that is not quite as nice....

I realize insiders know, but wonder if indeed as has been stated that one collector vacuumed up the majority or a large number of the "better" pieces....I can not compete in these leagues [anymore] but at one time knew a bit more. An older and now non-entity nowadays! LOL.

I tried on the currency 1922/Rev 27 but the winner was too strong and appeared to be willing to go much higher....

Another 2000 Bahamas 7 piece mint set showed up on eBay & could not resist the "Best Offer" of 13.78 including post & handling. A truly rare set.

Uggh, I bid on that one and don 't know where it ended up but figured out the opposition was willing to go much higher and so dropped out at the end. I did end up with Gerald's 1869 that was a beauty....

Numismatica Ars Classica ???

I suppose that was his capping specimen - the 1954. I wonder what it might fetch?? I also wonder about the 1922 specimen penny and how it night go price wise.

I have heard rumors but will want to see just what is on sale. I was really hoping there would be a 1919H nicer than that in the Part II Sale but think there is not....

John the 1912 looks on my iPhone to have a strike through at that spot and so different than the others which look to have bag contacts. Therefore it is part of the striking. Also at some site there are videos of the RM striking coins - they are very roughly treated tumbling down out of the striking chamber and down a chute into a collecting bin. And then unceremoniously tossed into bags.

I concur, this is a basic and gives a general heading or steerage. Unfortunately, as Mr. T I am nearly certain would agree, most knowledge of colonial comes from experience and following the market, auctions, etc.

I wonder the copper value of the coin.... 0.223 oz. of copper based on 97.5% alloy. Copper today is USD$4.59 per pound (12 troy ounces per pound). 1/54 of a pound = USD .085 per 2P coin....

Yes, many sellers try to confuse buyers and are deceptive representing common 2P pieces as the rare 1983 mule...

I know it doesn't seem fair, but if the more expensive bits are really up there you might still consider StacksBowers or even Heritage. The former gave me 105% of hammer on a couple of nice bits. I have sold doubles or redundancies through them with nary a problem. I may be facing a similar issue some years for now.

Wow! Astounding price on the 1827. Does this mean some of the non-gold 19th century issues (other than that - IMHO - infernal 1847 Gothic) are on the move?

Ah, yes. What I have been trying to find out is more about the 1838 no WW shilling so that answered by question. I did get several coins from that list and now can not really find more....

OK, do you mind checking to see which one had the Vicky shillings? I have recorded that I bought in March but that might have been a "pre" list - to which I used to get thanks to some insider connections (alas no longer). I am trying to research up a couple of things and greatly appreciate your help. I think but will have to check as I think Bull 6th Edition may have referred in the index section to 3/03 but even that would have to double check....

OK I used to get SNC and even purchased some from this list. Has it and lost it. might someone be good enough to copy and email the Victorian shilling “for sale” section to me? Appreciated if possible.

Ah, do share the varieties of Vickies. I need to get schooled, but I really have stuck to the main types & left most of the lettering varieties - if that is what you are referring to. I think I was initially put off by all the reported cleaning on the site - as per the OP above.

Nice buy on that Paddy - I think some of the scarcer coins not in top condition went for chips....I'd like to have seen a few of these in person but London/Mayfair is a bit of a stretch from here in Maryland. I want to see the "True View" at PCGS of the 1838 "No WW".

Ah, thanks Rob. That was the impression from watching the bidding from here on the 'net. Would you be at liberty to say if there were mainly dealers or if there were collectors? I seem to have noticed that the market for even somewhat worn material, even if of scarcer variety, is a bit off. Although there are many others, typical would be the 1863/1 shilling which is at least a bit scarce & it seemed to go for very little. It also seemed as if the consignor was a bit more enthusiastic about the earlier milled shillings as opposed to the Victorian material...

You know I had to have a second look at this auction. Lo and behold, there smacking me in the face was an exceptional 1838 Shilling with "no WW" to base of bust. Not a huge deal but this is not even mentioned in Spink and apparently is quite rare as I have seen precious few about; it was estimated at 200-300 pounds which seemed laughable and went for 1700!