VickySilver

Good science there and what my thoughts obviously are as well. An XRF machine would settle composition issue but these are very hard to find locally. Some jewelry stores have them but they are rather costly and have found none locally. I am also questioning the 10 pence pattern from the same set although have not weighed it. I just want someone to post pictures as I cannot reduce the size on either laptop or iPhone ....PM me if you might be able to.

I had to edit this as I may need a bit of help posting pictures of a pattern decimal 20 pence reverse struck in 1963 and that came with a set in a DNW 2005 auction . Also is a pattern Machin obverse for the 20 pence from 1963 The latter was supposedly struck in silver and I just weighed it at 26.30 gms. The former is supposedly struck in copper nickel and the specimen in the Royal Mint collection weighs in at 22.50 gms; internet sources, probably based on that specimen also say copper nickel and 22.50 gms. Mine weighs in at 26.56 gms and looks like silver. Besides helping me post photos can any readers venture thoughts or opinions? notum: for some reason I can not compress files today

I appreciate your enthusiasm but would not be generous to give this a type as a simple pit in the die will give this "stop". Carry on, this noted from an olde farte here.....

Obviously to each his own, but I just don't think many would accept a partially filled die period or comma should be considered as anything but a minor mint error.

I mean those are multiple incuse impact marks, nearly too many to count and so IMO very unlikely to be other than post minting damage as alluded to.

Yes, absolutely unbelievable. The rest of us poor peons.... I have collected Brit coins for in excess of 30 years and only a few of my very very best might only just be considered rivals to this. Unbelievable quality and rarity. Can you imagine even thinking to try for any coin he has/had an interest in as it may come up to auction? One interesting thought - what happens if a coin comes up that both he and DL Hansen have to have? I would imagine some negotiations and collusion must by need have to occur.

Well, doubtlessly many know more than I but at least Mr. Steve Hill tends to concur in several conversations. You will have nearly endless varieties of the issues from late 1840s to early 1850s with overstruck letters and dates, etc. I have a couple that are absolutely Maundy and bought in sets that have this. Keep looking at coins of the 1846-1853 period specimens and you no doubt will find many.

I am not convince about the "Struck for Colonial use only" bit that was in ESC for so long. Maundy at the time was quite variable in strike, surface and quality and with enough span in variances to encompass the specimens that I have seen or held in hand or even own from sources ranges from Spink to auctions (many venues)...

PMD seems rather the case at least to me. What was the impacter? Not sure but looks basically to have been hammered, almost like a ball-peen (sp?).

Well, 1923 Copper-nickel/nickel pattern maybe?

Shameless: if you or others have any for sale including the common 1961 2/6 I would be a customer....

Please do share pictures if you can....The crown was 1960 dated...

I am not convinced that it is not die preparation. LOL. Double negative. I personally believe that it is polished die, and not planchet or proof. I don't have it in hand obviously but possibly more than simple a polished die as the lettering and even the QE II bust has a bit more refinement/detail of strike possibly. I guess that I really should get a specimen myself and can't argue with the minimal price either.

This coin is up my alley but I am sorry that a missed stop on the designer's initials would not merit a separate Type IMO and more likely a filled die or such.

Ah sorry that was before coffee! I meant PL 1961 halfcrowns struck on planchets that appear to have been meant for proofs. BTW if anybody has one, I would be a buyer as I had previously passed (I think about 10-15 quid). I actually have a genuine proof 1961 2/6 but even some years ago it wasn't cheap.

I believe I have seen 1961 on the halfcrowns

Fractional ownership = BS. I just can not imagine doing this other than for investment purposes.

1863/1

Silly Wabbit, that is a gold off metal strike! LOL.............Well, maybe not.

Continued watch has not been rewarded as NO 1984 specimen FM coins or other rarities. No other 2002 proof sets; as I had said there are a few of the 2002 Track and Field (junior) crowns floating about but they are relatively scarce as well.

LOL Sloppy seconds....

No doubt other assets.... IMO still looks like the one date is larger than the other when looking at each digit - see for example the top stem to the "6".

I am still trying to figure out the number, and does or has anybody seen the 1843 4/5?

Yes, I agree. I doubt anybody has studied date varieties of the poor 1964 penny??

No fooling young Richard! It is.