Rob

Sorted now. Thanks all.

I never tire of watching this. Amazing skill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC9YY1urT8Q

Prices were quite soft in general for the lower grade material and some of the varieties didn't do as well as I expected, but that's probably indicative of the market at the moment - it's pretty dead. I was underbidder on the 1817 I/S which surprised me that it had very little interest. It started at only 95 with the commission bids and it was just me and the single book bidder going for it. I wanted it for stock. I sold it to him for 480 in 2008 when there were 4 known and after I got my existing example as a replacement. I still only have 8 recorded in the database, but I guess if it isn't in the book it goes under the radar. There are more GEOE/Rs than that, and they tend to fly.

Looks Irish to me. For a start the legend above the crown begins with an E, not an R, so not Richard. And on the reverse, following TAS you have DVB. So I'd say Edward IV light cross and pellets coinage, Dublin. Spink ref. 6373G (old 6365) would fit, or D&F 136 if you prefer.

No response to emails, so still looking for the last sale.

Based on the picture in the book, it should be sharper, and I'd say the 'point' is closer to the linear circle than in Rogers. Rogers notes that he has only included 4 varieties to Batty's 15, so maybe a Batty reference would be more appropriate for tying it down.

I've got a Moore model 1/2d here which is closest to Rogers 257, but that specifically says the truncation is curved strongly to a point at the front - which this isn't. Clues please. Ta.

The SEGO unit went unsold today at Spink. Make them an offer - it's rare. I paid 1500 for mine a while back and the horse is not as good as that one. Link For comparison. It's a scan, so a bit flat.

I had it down as a P1342, so clearly nothing that screamed proof in hand.

It's the only candidate listed in 1963, but with the number of listings counted on your fingers and in one month only, I would find it hard to believe that they had no more Ed.1 pennies for a whole year. Also, the IIIe was listed at 15/-, so either it didn't sell and was repriced at a later date, or it's a different coin. But it wasn't in the April 64 list which was quite extensive, and the other thing not in its favour is that a purchase date in 1963 doesn't leave much time to include it in the January list prior to printing.

Anything on the other side of the Seaby ticket? No IIIds of Newcastle in either 63 or 64. One IIIe in January 1963 and a whole raft of Edward pennies in April 64, but not one was a Newcastle. There were only a handful of Ed.1 pennies listed in the whole of 1963, so suspect these were too common a type to bother with. They made a good profit on it.

Sorry, should be June, not May

Thanks to Jerry for the December catalogue. Just the May 2024 sale now. Ta.

Thanks to David Bordeaux for the March catalogue. If anyone has last December's or the sale just gone, I'm still looking.

The milled was graded to appeal to the US/Asian markets. The hammered not because many things would come back as details if graded consistently (not a given). e.g the Oxford City View crown should be graded details due to the scratches in the field, but most of us would ignore them and grade relative to its peers

Given the evidence that they are still sending out catalogues, if anyone has copies of December 2023 or later they don't want, my library would be grateful. Please PM me if you can help. Ta.

That looks like a bit of rim that has squeezed past the die, but being thin has almost detached. That would do as an explanation for the other one also. Next question is - Same dies?

1st thing is to establish the variety rather than a maybe. Use the link in Secret Santa's signature for a comprehensive description of penny obverses and reverses.

Looks like a bit of trapped swarf. You can't tell from the picture how well adhered to the surface it is.

A bit tight there. I paid over £3100 for mine in 2010, Geoff paid around £3600 for that one in 2013 and the Sanders piece sold for nearly £4K all in in 2023. 5500CHF will work out at just over £6400 delivered, so given it is possibly the best available and in the context of the buoyant sale and the current market, not really out of kilter.

I've never had an issue with winning bids as some have come in low, some at max and some lost or not met the reserve - i.e. what you would expect. It's the combination of picture quality and the inability to view in hand that's the killer for me.

Does anyone receive them any more? I've not been sent one since last September and as a consequence haven't bid on anything either. Since they stopped having the sales at Bracknell with the ability to view the lots in hand, I have tended to work on the principle of if in doubt, leave it out. The pictures never have enough fine detail visible and tend to flatter the item, meaning viewing is even more important, but there is none. The breakdown of the online catalogue into sections rather than having it viewable from lot 1 though to the end also does my head in, as does the habit of listing by denomination in alphabetical order instead of chronologically, which is what most auction houses do. Am I the only one who thinks this way?

The 1806 wasn't there in 2013, so didn't have it on the list. I do know the 1797 gilt penny lot 1434 is wrong. Should be P1124 instead of P1127. That was a balls up all round as I listed it in 2013 as gilt and got the Peck type (KP18) right, but then wrote down the copper reference (P1126) on the ticket. Someone must have picked up on it not referring to a gilt piece and 'corrected' it to a P1127. Has to happen occasionally as none of us are infallible. I did not call the 1860 TB/BB mule a halfpenny on the ticket!

You just missed one in Zurich last week. Lot 1372.