absence of uniformity

Would anyone have a copy for sale please? Are all the Penny varieties covered? Did Michael write a book which covers only Penny types and die pairings. How much info was added to the 5th edition? The British Bronze Coinage: Pence, Halfpence and Farthings 1860 - 1869 (5th Edition) by Michael Gouby Loose Leaf, 60 Pages, Published 2006 ISBN-10: 0-948855-11-8 / 0948855118 ISBN-13: 978-0-948855-11-5 / 9780948855115 many thanks !

Thank you very much ! That F148 is really nice, amazing find. I dont expect to find another F90, wont stop me looking though.... 1861 2+F maybe a tricky one to find although the 1863 F44 slender 3 Freemans own example was thought to unique for many years then three more examples turned up. It's a monumental challenge especially unattributed to try and find all the types. If there is one 2+F I have hope there is more. Same for the other types.

What the heck, Im just going to share it ! So pleased it's the reverse which is in better condition. I know on these rarities grade is kind of irrelevant but what is your opinion please? Thanks

I find a indentifier like this then simply search high and low and open as many examples on the computer in seperate windows once I have 20-30 coins open in the browser go through each one focussing on the identifier only and then close the windows as I check them.

You mention dealers listing the coin in error, in my spreadsheet I have this image which I made which may help you id the type in poor condition and or poor photos in the sellers listing

Thank you ! For 1897V+xBP1897C1+CF148 I can see a brown AU example sold for $1200 through LCA and in Fine grade around $120 and going back to 2004 I can see around 14 examples have been sold through London coins (LCA) If you can settle for an example around (F) Im sure if you persist you can find one or purchase one?. Its probably much less likely to find a high grade coin unattributed. But never say never, I would imagine higher grade coins attract more attention even for standard types meaning more people have checked over the coin.

I would like to try find one example of every known variety. In 3 months I have found two of the rarer coins in the list, I have accepted I may have to purchase a few attributed types but the more I find the more I'm obliged to continue with this challenge. Its unlikely but lets say I did compile a collection of all the known varieties for the bun head penny series. Do people auction complete collections? I plan to invest in books. Does anyone have any books for sale please which may be of use to me.

The overall grade of the coin is really not bad, looking at the other examples my coin is certainly not the lowest grade/condition of the known examples.

I am delighted to share with you my most recent discovery ! I still cant believe it. I search to the point I literally become so sick and tired and just as I'm about to have a break as I cant take no more....... I find something like this, then the motivation is completely replenished. £16 with postage.... I feel a bit bad if im honest, I wouldnt call the seller a dealer but looking at the inventory not sure how they missed this one. I have only included part image of the coin as I would like to let the dust settle, I dont want the UK seller to get wind of it. In time I will share the complete coin.

Thanks, I cant draw the same lines because the coin is slightly rotated in the image, I'm quite sure the A is located the same as PW1967 and Gary's. So all three of these coins are quite consistant in the placement of the A. Also on all three coins the A stands quite alot. The coin in question (my one) the proposed A is quite weak and located roughly a few mm to the right. Until I receive my coin and take macro photos Im leaning towards it's not a die letter A on my coin. I wonder who has the other examples with the A to the right of the LH.

@PWA 1967 The coin on left here is the one you have.

Thank you, would it be be possible please to upload an image of the complete reverse. Thanks.

Thank you ! if you upload an image please which is perfectly square on to the coin I will draw the same to see.

I can only find two images of confirmed die letter A right of the lighthouse coins. I made this image to show the location of the A in respect to the date numerals and legends. The coin on the left is the London coins example, middle is the the coin in question and the coin on the right is Gary's. You can see on my coin the middle of the three the central line of the "A" does not disect the top part of the F of half like the London coins example and Gary's. I have read that the die letter C to the left of the Lighthouse there exist atleast 3 types, with slighly different location and or size, I think the A to the left of lighthouse also has slight variations in the few that are known. Other than this difference everything else appears to line up quite closely between the 3 coins.

I will do thanks ! After closer inspection it looks like the shape has the similar curved base.

Thank you Bernie !

For £2 + Shipping I thought what the heck and will try my luck and purchased the coin.

I noticed this 1862 Halfpenny with what appears like a possible trace of the letter A to the right of the lighthouse. What do you think? I have identified the coin in question as 7+G (I could be wrong) Im not sure what Im seeing is really the letter A, although the position and size is seamingly correct. Many thanks,

Thanks alot, thats where I was roughly hoping for. appreciate the response.

Thank you !

Thank you! agree, being rare, cleaned and or polished with scratches its quite tricky for me to value the coin. I have seen the 24 examples on Richards website most of which have sale prices. Most of those examples are more worn but dont have scratches and not obviously cleaned/ polished. Asking opinion on the grade is simply to try better understand the value. I have no intentions to sell the coin.

Hypothetically speaking what do you think I could jot down as a value in my database, many thanks.

Thanks for that info ! I had previously stumbled across Garys ebay listing's also seen his name on Richards website.

Thanks Jerry ! I'm happy with that. I doubt il find a better one in the wild.