absence of uniformity

When comparing to other examples the number is smaller and wrong position.

This one aswell. Obviously the number is the wrong size also wrong position.

£340

I have sinced found a few other coins with a ghostly H including another 1875. If you look at the attached image there is an 8 a C and also some guys face in the circle with long hair and a pointy nose any ideas who it is?

this one look's nice aye ! sold through LCA

Thanks I did have a look, I just found this coin. Its hard to say with the image quality what actually is there could be anything. In my image the coin on the left is from LCA and the coin on the right is the one I just found, I drew some lines to show the position roughly. I also added an image of the coin seperately. its 0.99 buy it now plus shipping. I know the lines I have drawn are not perfect but it doesnt quite match up with the example on the left.

Good work ! I'm having trouble finding the 1946 ONE'. Although I spend alot more time searching for other types.

Thanks, the amount of time i have spent lookng for the more common coins I'm starting to think will be easier to find and buy coins which are attributed. Im lucky so far most of the coins I have found are types I could never afford.

Thats the arrow highlighting the location of the H Thats's what caught my eye when I purchased it, then I noticed what I thought was a H. You are not alone its currently 50/50 split decision. Thanks

Currently it's a split decision. An equal amount of people say they see a H and the same amount say no H. Respectively the opinion of the members here I value to be of higher credence however I will remain on the fence until I have completed my search for an identifiable die characteristic unique to Heaton coins. If nothing else it's a great learning experience for me and a good reason to learn to look closely at details, going forward I will need those skills. I have spent a good few hours and found some differences between F82 and F85 on some coins, each time I find a consistant different detail I then find a coin in between the two or find an example which proves the theory incorrect. Part of my issue when trying to corroborate apparent differences is the inconsistant grade and or photos of different coins I'm looking at. If I had 20 uncirculated F82s and 20 F85s with photos taken under the same conditions would probably be more decisive. It's a challenge out of interest rather than simply going against opinion. Up until now I have only been studying the reverse, I will check the obverse to see if I can find any consistant differences between Heaton and London die pairings for 8+J This coin was not purchased as F85 and it was purchased cheap, already the purchase has provided me with hours of interest and learning about grade and scrutinizing details.

Thanks, I dont have a clue what I'm talking about hence me posting here about it. One thought I had if the 5 is manually added or punched would that account for variation in the position of the 5. Please see the following image.

@PWA 1967 7 Vs 1 currently, I'm not sure myself, seems logical to favour the popular opinion😃 Thats why I love types like F90 Peter, clear as day.

Im going to study the 1875 and 1875 H there must be an identifiable die characteristic unique to the H coins. Lets see.

@PWA 1967 I appreciate the input, In the sellers photos I can see a H. Can you not? What is the opinion of others? Thanks

And here is the sellers image

I'm pleased to share with this 1875H coin I have just purchased. (I think the seller missed the H) In your opinion what is the grade please of this coin, my gut feeling is GVF/GVF I'm inexperienced and am a bit lost when it comes to grading. There is rim damage and a few stains, you can also just some some luster around some of the legends. I know the following is only a basic guide but its difficult for me to be sure how the coins grades. 1) VF-20 We start to see all major line in the hair. The thistle and shamrock decorations starts to appear. Clearly readable but lightly worn legends, illustrations show good detail, rims are clean, but the whole coin shows moderate wear on the high points. 2) EF-40 Hair lines are mostly sharp and distinct except above forehead. The rose, thistle and shamrock decorations are visible. Legends are sharp, illustrations are clear with slight but obvious wear on the high points. 3) AU-50 Hair above forehead are visible and dress details are distinct. Sharp legends and illustrations show only a trace of wear on the highest points. There must be some remaining mint luster." Note inside the bottom of the Letter O in One the small flat part which does not appear to be damage. I would be grateful to hear opinions please. Thanks.

Thank you Richard, this is what I would like to track down.

thanks !

Ok thanks ! I purchased a copy from Chris a while back.

Thanks again ! Il let you know if I win.

I believe we can see only the top portion of the 4 makng it appear widely spaced.

The burr where the drill has blown out the metal is bronze coloured. I believe we can see only the top portion of the 4 makng it appear widely spaced.

1874H Freeman 66 dies 6+G is my guess; just inside the hole it looks bronze coloured.