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I've just checked my own 1861 over 1 and, surprise surprise, it also has an open P, although I can't make my mind up whether it's exactly the same font as seen on my F20 and the F36 and 37 proofs. F33 1 over 1, F36, F37, F20 - it's the foot of the P that is clearly indented on the right hand 3 coins but I'm not sure about the F33. Interestingly, the F36 also has a 1 over 1 although the date is wider:

This has happened before in times of high inflation - specifically the mid-70s; a few years later prices had fallen back again, thought not to the levels of the immediate post-decimal collapse.

Coins or to be correct the top 1% of the coin market are still popular without any sign of a price bubble occuring , hammered tudor is a fave for many , the mainstream of the market and rare varieties have faired less well with varieties barely moving and the more mainstream £20-£100 coins the mainstay of most collections just edgeing up slowly , except of course for gold which now seems ever popular. Bronze from the early Victoria years esp pennies is ever popular All dealers at coin fairs endlessly complain about few decent coins being offered for sale with many complaining they cannot make a decent profit with the coins they are offered. While the chance to buy many coins at a reasonable price has gone , the challenge remains to spot the sleepers in todays market , any ideas anyone?

I remember toying with the idea of buying a few sovs in 1998 when the bullion price was down to £55. WHY DIDN'T I...

I certainly don't believe that the thinking of many is entirely rational. Moreover they seem to be placing "party politics", for want of a better expression to describe the bizarre, ahead of their consitituents. Almost certainly a few of the constituents of all the MP's will have been affected to a greater or lesser extent by vaccine side effects. So even those who had an initial bad reaction are going to be in sympathy with others who suffered more long term damage. So any of them could be forgiven for wondering why their MP (be they Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Welsh, Green, or whatever) does not appear willing to acknowledge their problems - quite the reverse in fact. I really do think this needs addressing. MP's are there to represent their constituents, not treat them like simpletons, based on collective dogma. As for net zero by 2030, it manifestly isn't going to happen. That is blindingly obvious. So why keep up up this idiotic pretence? (2050 maybe). Parliament should already be drawing a lesson from the ULEZ protests and the civil disobedience/vandalism of ULEZ street furniture currently ensuing, that the public will only put up with so much nonsense.

That's the thing - if a government person explained to Parliament why the information given by Bridgen, Chope was wrong, or put out some official rebuttal with stronger counter-evidence, that would be that. Yet their approach, followed slavishly by the media, is to pretend that this subject does not exist. It's as if they think - if we ignore it, it'll go away. To many of us it seems the politicians have backed themselves into a corner, which is why they're now in full la-la land, as of course they can't admit what a humungous cock-up they've made of it all. I can see them doing the same with Net Zero in years to come. Are they under instruction or have nearly all of them completely lost their marbles?

Yes, back in 2004 DNW had nice examples of all 3 main early proof sets in one catalogue, and all went for £11-20/25K'ish. Where's that time machine!!

Agree, for much ordinary or normal item also the same. I remember 1953 proof set was only £50 around years ago, and now it costs £100 around for a set.

Incidentally, with specific regard to the 1839 proof penny itself, I couldn't help noticing that the majority are not in especially good nick. Often spotted and scruffy looking, with a few quite distinctly impaired. Of course, this is one date you can be certain they are all proofs, and not currency strikes masquerading as proofs.

Hello Larry, just found out that the Schweitzer will soon be publishing its catalogue makes it available (digitally). Hopefully we can use it with our PC read as it is over 350 pages long. I will keep you informed. I wish you a pleasant time and best regards. Gunter. The swiss collector is publishing soon you all may be interested to know ....I am intrigued to know the contents. As soon as I have it I will let you know

it is nice to have a wealth of research , the boxes alone in his book fill 18 pages with up to 8 on one page .....so this is a great deal more than Rogers.

I have written to him to ask about the Round box with the harpy and scene of Nurnberg which I showed . It is his belief that the box was constructed in 1931 so I have asked if the contents I showed may not be the original ones

Anyone recognise the handwriting on this ticket ? Not getting any information beyond the provenance from it myself, but I'm a novice at this.