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Other way round for me. The pleasure's in the ownership. I can look at anyone's pictures but if it's mine I can hold it, inspect it, admire it.

Some reading on dipped coins http://www.coinweek.com/featured-news/understanding-classic-u-s-coins-building-excellent-coin-collections-part-2-dipped-coins/

Everyone has an individual taste, what appeals to me, may not appeal to others, but if you knew it had been dipped would you have still bought it? Knowledge is power and this is what the forum is all about, being better informed. The coin is nice, if the seller or whoever dipped it had left it alone it would have been better, after reading the link 1949 posted i didn't realise some people even use putty to deceive even the graders are the TPGs, it just goes to show you what lengths people go to to make a few $s........... I'm going to add the link 1949 posted in the thread "useful links" for future reading/reference.......

Yep, I'm with you on this one, Jon. I don't get any special thrill from the chase, but I do get a real buzz out of ownership, and being able to get the coins out of their trays and look at them every now and again. That's something that can't be beaten in my estimation. Strange to say that I'll often contemplate the fact that I'm holding a coin which was in existence and looked pretty much exactly the same when my parents, Grandparents and Great Grandparents, and even beyond that, were born.

Mick, To me that is a cracking coin. Enjoy it for what it it is, dipped or undipped it's still a thing of beauty. Ian

I managed to get an original November 1991, auction 89 catalogue from an internet site "Dymasia". They have many more auction catalogues advertised on their website.

We don't seem to have a slot for British Colonies so I guess these belong here. Picked up yesterday in a job lot - not had any of them in hand before: Gibraltar 2 Quarts 1842/1 Essquibo & Demerary 1 Stiver 1813 St Helena Halfpenny 1821

Occasionally and in the past they have been accused of dipping, but think that uncommon these days as many seem to (naturally enough) take pictures of their coins before submitting. NGC and to some extent PCGS have "conservation services" whereby they may clean up a coin. There is a famous case of an incredibly valuable 1893 S Dollar that was dipped by the TPG, perhaps at the submitter's request (?) and lost its beautiful natural toning as well as value in that instance. Dipping not always bad and I have IMO judiciously dipped a couple of bits, but would not recommend it to the beginner. I would recommend experimenting with bits of no or little value if you've an interest to learn what it is about. As Rob and others have implied appearance is entirely an individual matter, one which may evolve over time as well.

No. TPGs seem not to worry too much if a coin is dipped. It isn't the same as polishing as all it does is remove the naturl toning, but can leave a washed out appearance if done for any length of time. The coin will go dull if over-dipped and lose any natural brilliance

Uniformity of colour is usually a good indicator. Silver will tone down over time if untouched, with a degree of mottling in the toning from past handling residues. That is why 200 year old or whatever silver should look the real thing. The only way for silver not to tone (as it is a natural reaction with airborne contaminants) is for it to be hermetically sealed. Anything else is suspect. e.g. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/2315-1731-shilling-t-over-e-in-a-t/ this was liberated from the bottom of a broken Georgian drinking vessel in 2006, but even here we have a bit of toning present. Maybe as a result of heating the glass when it was sealed in, but otherwise there is no appreciable toning. Long term, any silver that is 100 years old you would expect to show some signs.

Thank you Nordle & 1949Threepence! Coudlnt ask for a warmer welcome! I seriously doubt I'll put up any compitition to you guys on here! Picked up this 1862 recently for £49 if I remember correctly.

My latest acquisition broke the bank to get this one. Victorian Crown 1899 LXIII. 2E. T of Victoria to space.