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Brilliant, on both counts! re the hammered, there has been so many monyers and dies, across so many cities, with Bishops and emergency coinage, etc., etc., that new varieties are appearing all the time! However, mostly, with hammered, it’s still grade and eye-appeal that remains king, and it appears that most people pick that up quite quickly, unfortunately! One caveat to this is of course finding something in the ground that’s historically unknown for a mint or king, then you might be on to something…this seems to happen quite frequently with the early medieval period.

And they also wrote "Raised line on hull" on the ticket...

It really annoys me that the slabbers call the coin a 1/2 p for gods sake its a 1/2 D

Its come a long way already, I have been leaving the coin in direct sunlight with fresh air flow sat on a manilla envelope. In less than 6 months it has already taken on alot of toning.

Thanks ! In the hammered coinage there must be some varieties that command the higher premiums? For this coin I think it was mostly right place right time with alot of luck. It kind of fell into my possesion. Initially I did not find the variety, I found the coin then researched the varieties for the type. This was my first find and possibly the best to date.. You can see why and how I become totally consumed by penny varieties. Then shortly after the 1877 F90. Since then I have found many decent coins but not quite of the same calibre of those two. It was enough to be hooked for life and invest more time to learn all I can. I feel now I have run out of avenues for prospection, I find myself looking over the same coins for sale.

I’d be leaving that somewhere where it could acquire a rich, deep, even brown tone.

Excellent, still can’t believe it Well done, a phenomenal acquisition. I wish hammered varieties were as profitable. 👏👏

currency has gunports as well the big giveaway that they never noticed was the three dots

Thanks. Supposedly only one example better than fine in LCA archive since 2003.

By the pictures you can see some gunports

Yoy're right

Ok, clear Thank you for your answer! I add more pictures, hope they are better than the others.

I’ve abandoned a few loads over the past week, or so, I’d say…I’m not stressing about it too much as our local mast has been playing up too!

Didn't notice myself and the online user number is quite low at the moment. Will put it down to a glitch and keep an eye on it.

Site seemed to be down most of the morning - only just got back in. Any ideas what caused the issue?

Does not the fact that these slabbing companies never mentioned this was a proof in their description inspire confidence in their work Answer Yes / No. does not take a genius to work out

Look at my varieties site.

Yes, that coin now resides with me! Jerry

In answer to your first question the best i have seen was Garys on the forum which from memory i think was slabbed GEF with some lustre. Plenty now turned up in low grades but very rare in better than VF.

If you turn the coin over you will see the 1 in date is to Gap and for F164 & F164a is to tooth. The obverse although has a few indicators (in the groom book) has a wider Gap between T & O which you can see even if the teeth not there.

Thanks yes.

The Coin pictured is NOT 1*+C.

my gut feeling is yes to 1*+C.

Can I ask please; what is the best condition 1*+C you have seen? I found one last week which is 100% 1*+C no doubt in the normal heavily circulated condtion. I also found the coin imaged I wasn't 100 % sure with this one because the tooth is slightly out of shape. What do you think? Thanks.

Well it doesn't appear to be the left of. Thanks