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You should be able to find out more about him using Gemini Ai. I pulled this up quickly. You could probably ask further questions and get some more details from it. https://gemini.google.com/share/1a43cd2e2c35
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I am not a member. I found the site by chance using "George Pettet Transported to the Colonies" as a google search. It was the top link.
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Wow! Well found! If you are a member on that site, feel free to add a copy of my picture if you think it would be appreciated.
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https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/pettet/george/97932 Could be him. According to the details added later on by a lady called Diane Jones he was executed for a murder carried out in Oatlands , Australia a few years after he arrived in Australia.
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That is a tough one. My first impression was George Pettet. But it's a C punch instead of a G. Perhaps he didn't have a G punch. But if that was the case there could be other letters substituted by other punchs so it would make it extremely difficult to research i guess.
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Apoligies for the misunderstanding. I am not too clued up on those type of marks. They are chop marks i think. There may be a book somewhere with them in. I know there is books on the counterstamped trade tokens of the 18th century & 19th century covering the likes of the Bradford & Keighley workhouse tokens to name a few. Galata do a good one.
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oldcopper replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Thanks Chris. It goes without saying I greatly appreciate the Forum, there's a lot of expertise on it. -
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Chris Perkins replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I wasn't aware of any previous disagreements and I certainly may have neglected my role as forum admin in the past, I accept that. Having a little fun with current affairs and public figures, including politicians, is fine and healthy banter as far as I'm concerned (e.g. blakeyboy's meme above). Let's keep politics off of here though, both of you. It always becomes a headache (from my point of view)! I'm sure you two gents can agree to disagree, you've both been here for years so you must have managed to somehow. Thank-you both for your input. -
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oldcopper replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Chris - I understand and won't say any more, but I am referring to the last time that him and myself had a "discussion" - I was explaining the fraudulent interpretation of data by BLM, now Peckris told me he had these other statistics for crime and demographic correlations in the US (this was back in 2020), I had the FBI statistics which are the only ones of course, so unsurprisingly he never produced his mysterious statistics (he'd made it up of course, so he was being dishonest). On being further asked about it, he exited the conversation with various obscenities aimed at myself, a flurry of eff's (spelt fully!) and other abuse. If you don't mind me saying, you were nowhere to be seen. And I have to tell you. that was far, far worse than what I have written above. I'm sure he's very knowledgeable about coins, so perhaps he should stick to that. But I am very happy to have a conversation with anyone about politics on here. -
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Chris Perkins replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Deary me, we seem to have a difference of political opinions. Which is fine of course. But please don't insult Peckris by suggesting he is not familiar with the word "honestly". Don't need negative vibes today, or ever for that matter. I don't have any spare brain cells to have to worry about potential conflicts on the forum. -
I wasn't aware that moving something like that would then default everything under it to 'unread'! If you go to the 'branch' in question, e.g Wanted, there should be an option at the top to 'Mark Forum as Read'. This is what it looks like for me but it may look different for other browser/OSes.
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oldcopper replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
"honestly" - not a word you're too familiar with, and of course followed by the usual mind-numbingly predictable parroted derision. Trump previously pointed out that Europe is destroying itself with huge mass immigration and the crazy energy policy of "Net Zero". Care to argue about that? -
Interesting summary of treasure finds in the UK in 2025.
copper123 replied to Paddy's topic in Free for all
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All sorted now, 😊 I managed to find out what I needed to know. thanks.
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Here is one that is probably a transportation token, but because the message is less clear, one cannot be certain:
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Paddy started following "Next unread topic"
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What happened was that CP moved the Wanted and For Sale sections to the Members section and so most got reset as unread.
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Ah... its the counterstamps that I would like to pursue, I have some Reales that have various Chinese counterstamps that are believed to be merchant stamps... the other 2 attached are British coins counterstamped to be used in other country's so looking to find out where?
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Quite a few Counter-stamps are commercial. Many copper pennies were stamped with "Lloyds" and used as tokens for their paper. The Chinese used Chop marks to confirm authenticity or claim ownership. Some were also governmental - indicating a re-valuation or the use in subsidiary or revolutionary organisations. Many early Caribbean coins are counter stamped versions of other country's money. Engraving tends to be more personal, individual and so difficult to track down. When I first started collecting again in the early 2000s I picked up a cartwheel penny at an antiques shop, which, in the terms of the vendor, had been "Vandalised as someone's written all over the back" As a result it was cheap. The wording was something like "When this you see, think of me, J Bond 1827" - it was a transportation token created by or for someone about to be shipped to the colonies! I put it on Ebay, and it sold for a tidy sum, going to Australia. Sadly I no longer have a picture. Here is a Brazilian 20 Reis counter stamped by the government to revalue as 40 Reis.
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I think it has been like that since the software was upgraded as I found I also had a trillion unread messages. CP should be able to confirm.
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The one consideration you have missed is the possibility that the overdate (or letter) was not punched deep enough into the die to pass the lowest point of the previous digit. Using the same reasoning, consider the 1817 GEOE/R shilling. I refuse to believe the engraver thought 'Here'a correct legend, I'll just create an error by 'correcting' the R with an E so that some nerds 200 years from now find something to get excited about'. Clearly the E would have been put in first, but the correction wasn't sunk deep enough. Easy to do if you are looking at the lowest point in the field as a reference point rather than the bottom of a very small deep pit.
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I suppose it depends what you've got to work with. EJ ❤ FD on a love token is not going to go anywhere. It just depends how much information you have to start with. If you've got full names and a date you might be able to find something out but you are probably going to need a paid subscription to ancestry or some other Genealogy website and even then it might lead knowhere as there likely will of been more than one person with that name around the same period. I got lucky with my cartwheel penny as it had the guys full name , rank and unit engraved into it.
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Can I please email someone from the forum, to take a look and confirm what I'm seeing is actually correct. Can said person respect my privacy and not share images of my coin?
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Im scared to face the music, I cant find any differences between my coin and the example which sold at the baldwin auction for 37k, mine also shows the weak /missing liner circle in the same place as the coin sold in the Baldwin auction. I dont want to post pictures to the forum for privacy reasons.
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In some forums - e.g. Items for Sale - I was paging through endless supposedly unread topics (the "Next unread topic" button was at the bottom of every topic which should only be there for actual unread topics). Eventually - after wondering why so many people were selling stuff - I noticed the dates of each topic were a few years old! Has there been a software change very recently?
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Peckris 2 replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I saw most of his Davos speech - honestly, it was just a raving ramble complaining about everyone except his own team, yet claiming ridiculous false achievements in his first year.