Diaconis Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Diaconis said: 12 hours ago, will1976 said: This was one of my purchases yesterday from my regular outings to the Malvern flea fair.... Antwerp coin/trade weight, 15x15mm weight of 3gm. I believe it dates from 1597 but I'm still checking up on that and the makers initials There are so many of these who’s makers are unknown but I believe this It’s a weight for a Dutch 1 Real / Keizers-real / Konings-reaal - (1521 - 1598) - goud - 5,3gr. If you check the weight it should be 5.3gr?? Quote
will1976 Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 @Diaconis I will double check the weight once I get home tonight but I'm pretty certain it came in at 3 grams Quote
Diaconis Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 4 hours ago, will1976 said: @Diaconis I will double check the weight once I get home tonight but I'm pretty certain it came in at 3 grams The obverse denotes the coin to be weighed, the Gold 1 Real of std. wt 5.32 g. Fonck made weights for English, Dutch, Portuguese, French coins, quite prolific. Quote
will1976 Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 @Diaconis just re checked the weight and it comes in at 3gm exactly. I'm a little confused now as the picture you included in your last post is an exact match Quote
Diaconis Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, will1976 said: @Diaconis just re checked the weight and it comes in at 3gm exactly. I'm a little confused now as the picture you included in your last post is an exact match Will, just sent you a PM Quote
will1976 Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 My two latest Kempson half pence's from the Birmingham series, I'm particularly pleased with the new meeting one as it shows a lot more lustre in hand. Just 10 left to find now! 2 Quote
Paulus Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, will1976 said: My two latest Kempson half pence's from the Birmingham series, I'm particularly pleased with the new meeting one as it shows a lot more lustre in hand. Just 10 left to find now! Gorgeous examples! So you're one of the Birmingham Kempson buildings collectors I'm competing against! Funnily enough I also have 10 left to collect: 150 ST. BARTHOLOMEW'S CHAPEL. 159 THE OLD MEETING DESTROY'D 167 MEETING PARADISE STRT 171 ST. PAUL'S CHAPEL. 180 GENERAL HOSPITAL 184 LIBRARY 186 BIRM WORKHOUSE 194 BLUE SCHOOL 202 THE NEW BRASS WORKS 205 NEW BREWERY Quote
will1976 Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Paulus said: So you're one of the Birmingham Kempson buildings collectors I'm competing against! Yes I'm afraid so and i need six of the ten you listed! The ones I need are: 167 Meeting Paradise strt 169 Jerusalem Temple 177 Barracks Erected 184 Birmingham Library 186 Birmingham Workhouse 191 Welch Cross 194 Blue School 202 New Brass Works 205 New Brewery 212 Soho Manufactory I did have the opportunity to buy the Welch Cross example but it had a bad corrosion spot on the reverse so I declined it in the hope of finding a better example. Do any of yours have the Ottley reverse? I've not come across any so far Quote
Paulus Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, will1976 said: Yes I'm afraid so and i need six of the ten you listed! The ones I need are: 167 Meeting Paradise strt 169 Jerusalem Temple 177 Barracks Erected 184 Birmingham Library 186 Birmingham Workhouse 191 Welch Cross 194 Blue School 202 New Brass Works 205 New Brewery 212 Soho Manufactory I did have the opportunity to buy the Welch Cross example but it had a bad corrosion spot on the reverse so I declined it in the hope of finding a better example. Do any of yours have the Ottley reverse? I've not come across any so far No Ottley reverses, no, and I haven't come across one either! And I've only got one reverse 4 example: Quote
will1976 Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 I don't have an example of reverse 4 yet but I'd like one as it has the 'twentyseven public buildings....' legend and it just seems to fit well with the others. Quote
will1976 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 My purchase from Thursday's DNW sale, D+H177 in brass, which arrived this morning 2 Quote
will1976 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Yes, just leaves 8 to go now. I'm thinking of starting on the Gloucester series next Quote
Paulus Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I'm down to 9 after picking this up from The Druid last month 1 Quote
will1976 Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 @Paulus I did wonder if it was you who bought it, I got the 'new brass works' the same week Quote
will1976 Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Well it's been an expensive month and the coin fund is now officially bankrupt after this purchase. D+H199 Ottley reverse. Apologies for the over exposure, took several shots and happy with none of them Quote
will1976 Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 It's only the second I've come across, the other was listed as fair and 'quite battered' Still available as far as I'm aware if your interested Quote
Paulus Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, will1976 said: It's only the second I've come across, the other was listed as fair and 'quite battered' Still available as far as I'm aware if your interested No I don't, but thanks anyway - I don't want any 'battered' coins regardless of the rarity! 1 Quote
brg5658 Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 Some truly wonderful new tokens and coins posted in this thread. I've been a bit "sparse" as of late, but I do check in from time to time. One particular note: @Paulus your photography is superb! Best, Brandon 1 Quote
Paulus Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, brg5658 said: Some truly wonderful new tokens and coins posted in this thread. I've been a bit "sparse" as of late, but I do check in from time to time. One particular note: @Paulus your photography is superb! Best, Brandon Thanks Brandon! Quote
jaggy Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) So I bought this Token at Heritage last night. Graded MS64 RB, it is a Lanarkshire copper 1/2 Penny Token dated 1795. But the real reason I bought it is because it is from Glasgow with the Glasgow coat of arms on it and that is where I grew up and where, in many respects, I still think of as home. The photo is from Heritage. Edited July 1, 2019 by jaggy 2 Quote
Paulus Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 @jaggy This from Dalton & Hamer: The arms of Glasgow are very ancient, and are attributed to St. Kentigern, who is said to have founded a small religious establishment on the banks of a tributary of the Clyde, where the City now stands, and that he hung a bell upon a tree near by, to call the worshippers. Now as to the “fish” and the “ring”: This refers to a certain queen who, tradition states, carried on an intrigue with a soldier, and gave to him a ring which she had received from the king. This ring was afterwards taken from the soldier while he slept, and, by the king was thrown into the Clyde, who later demanded its production by the queen; she, in her difficulty consulted the Saint, who had a newly caught fish brought, in which was found the ring, and thereby the king’s suspicions were allayed. But there appears a bird perched on a branch of the tree, to which no reference is made in the foregoing note. Another version is given in a manuscript note by the late Rev. W. R. Hay, M.A., vicar of Rochdale : ” The arms of Glasgow are—a tree in full leaf, a bird at the top of it, a bell hanging from the tree, and a salmon with a ring in its mouth. The story: A man promised marriage to a servant cook, and after having bought the wedding ring, refused to marry her. On her upbraiding him, he threw the ring over the bridge into the Clyde, and promised that if she found and brought it to him he would marry her. Some time after, in gutting a salmon for dinner, she found the ring in it ; on which she claimed the promise, and her lover married her. ” The tree is the woman ready to be married ; the bird at the top, her lover who would not come down ; the bell, that which should have rang for their marriage; and the salmon, that which swallowed the ring.” The following lines are current in Scotland on the subject:— ” Here’s a tree that never grew, Here’s a bird that never flew, Here’s a bell that never rung, And here’s a drunken salmon.” The salmon is described as “drunken” because it appears as floating on its back, this being the position of a dead fish in water. 1 Quote
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