Henry Vii Gold Sovereign Sold For £28,000 At Spink

[paulfrasercollectibles]

Lovely example of the Henry VII gold sovereign sold at Spink yesterday, along with a Henry VII example:

http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/News/Henry-VII-gold-sovereign-makes-$45,000-at-Spink/15147.page?catid=26

Please can you guys review this article and tell us if there is any information you'd like to see more of in there, or any other comments you may have. We're looking to improve our coverage on the site and you guys (collectors) will be the most useful in doing this.

Thanks,

Joe

[Coinery]

Now that's what you call a busy-looking webpage!

Some rarities there, but I can't really give you anywhere near 'bold VF' on this one http://store.paulfrasercollectibles.com/Charles-I-Carlisle-Besieged-Shilling-Coin-p/pt324.htm

[Peter]

It is one of those "grade for issue"

We all know it is poor or there abouts.

In the case of such coins a grade is pointless.

[TomGoodheart]

Some rarities there, but I can't really give you anywhere near 'bold VF' on this one http://store.paulfrasercollectibles.com/Charles-I-Carlisle-Besieged-Shilling-Coin-p/pt324.htm

Well, oddly, that's what it says here!

http://www.baldwin.co.uk/coins/great-britain/siege-pieces/charles-i-carlisle-siege-shilling-1645.html?usrc=1

[Coinery]

It is one of those "grade for issue"

We all know it is poor or there abouts.

In the case of such coins a grade is pointless.

Absolutely! I think a grade for hammered is pointless full-stop, even though it obviously has one hidden in there somewhere! I think you had it spot on with your earlier rendition in another thread!

Hammered are graded in my book as:

- is it alright?

- do you like it?

- do you like it a lot?

- do you repeatedly go back to it time and time again?

- are you prepared to be skint to have it?

- are you so desperate to have it that you have to lie to the wife (and yourself) to get it?

- nothing matters, you've just got to have it (and you kid yourself you can always get the money back in the future)!

Edited September 26, 2013 by Coinery

[Coinery]

Some rarities there, but I can't really give you anywhere near 'bold VF' on this one http://store.paulfrasercollectibles.com/Charles-I-Carlisle-Besieged-Shilling-Coin-p/pt324.htm

Well, oddly, that's what it says here!

http://www.baldwin.co.uk/coins/great-britain/siege-pieces/charles-i-carlisle-siege-shilling-1645.html?usrc=1

Good spot TG! So, is Paul Fraser just chancing his luck and hoping to get a commission deal for dotting the i's on a sale?

Also, I know Peter mentioned the 'for issue' issue, but surely Baldwin's are above this nonsense...aren't they?

[Rob]

Now that's what you call a busy-looking webpage!

I was looking at it before being rudely interrupted by a pop-up. I immediately left the page. If something is interesting, let them read it. You don't look at websites to be bombarded with marketing/questionnaires crap. Given the ease with which information is spread by the internet, I am unlikely to learn anything significant that is only available via this website. After all, it appeared to be a compilation of news from other sites.

[HistoricCoinage]

Now that's what you call a busy-looking webpage!

I was looking at it before being rudely interrupted by a pop-up. I immediately left the page. If something is interesting, let them read it. You don't look at websites to be bombarded with marketing/questionnaires crap. Given the ease with which information is spread by the internet, I am unlikely to learn anything significant that is only available via this website. After all, it appeared to be a compilation of news from other sites.

Precisely. I wasn't all that smitten reading news which I got yesterday from the Spink auction. Perhaps a different take on it or something to grab the eye, but a simple miniature summary of one coin in the most recent Spink auction does nothing for me. It might work as a forum topic generating debate but otherwise...

[Coinery]

Now that's what you call a busy-looking webpage!

After all, it appeared to be a compilation of news from other sites.

Not just news, apparently! And, yes, horrible pop-ups, adverts, and borrowed news everywhere!

[azda]

How do people get away with selling what is'nt theirs? You obviously can't be taken seriously trying to make a killing on other peoples coins pretending that they are yours. Copyright infringement is against the Law i hear, you should maybe remove it before someone informs Baldiwns of what you're doing.

Edited September 27, 2013 by azda

[Coinery]

How do people get away with selling what is'nt theirs? You obviously can't be taken seriously trying to make a killing on other peoples coins pretending that they are yours. Copyright infringement is against the Law i hear, you should maybe remove it before someone informs Baldiwns of what you're doing.

Maybe Baldwin's have consented to it?

The thing I don't get, however, is how Fraser hopes to sell the coin at all! I mean you'd hardly be shelling out 10's of thousands without at least a little research? Even a basic search would find out the Baldwin version, given the descriptors are identical!

Looking at the number of adverts and borrowed news items, I'd say he's more interested in site traffic for his dosh, rather than the physical hard sales of 'antiques'!