George V double headed coin/medal?

[soo1962]

I have a coin or a medal. It is about the same size of a sovereign, bronze/copper, weight 4grams, no milling around edge, with a double obverse of King George V. There is no legend or date, just the head. Does anybody know what this could be? I would class it in VG condition, but it does need a clean, which I am hesitant to do - if cleaned it could possibly co me up a grade. Photo attached - sorry, best I could do!

Thank you in advance for your opinions.

[Rob]

I have a coin or a medal. It is about the same size of a sovereign, bronze/copper, weight 4grams, no milling around edge, with a double obverse of King George V. There is no legend or date, just the head. Does anybody know what this could be? I would class it in VG condition, but it does need a clean, which I am hesitant to do - if cleaned it could possibly co me up a grade. Photo attached - sorry, best I could do!

Thank you in advance for your opinions.

No picture has appeared, so ...

If the dies used are official ones it will be somebody playing about with a lathe, milling out one reverse and reducing the thickness of the second by removing the reverse before neatly fitting one inside the other. This is the normal way to produce double headed coins. If cleaned, the only way the grade is going is down because grade is a measure of physical abrasion to the surfaces of the coin. Cleaning removes metal and doesn't deposit it, which would be required to show apparently less wear than before.

[soo1962]

I can't seem to upload the picture. It's in the required KB range. Sorry.

I can't see any join marks on the edge to indicate it's a cut job. The fact it has no other information on it other than the head of George V is puzzling.

[Rob]

I can't seem to upload the picture. It's in the required KB range. Sorry.

I can't see any join marks on the edge to indicate it's a cut job. The fact it has no other information on it other than the head of George V is puzzling.

Usually the coin is milled out inside the rim and the second obverse dropped into place. Without a picture though, we still don't know if the obverses are from currency coins though as you haven't said. You will ahve to either reduce the image size to under 150kB or alternatively use a hosting site such as Photobucket. If the size is under 150kB, it is likely that you have selected the file, but not attached it. It will tell you when it has been uploaded.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Rob

[Peckris]

I can't seem to upload the picture. It's in the required KB range. Sorry.

I can't see any join marks on the edge to indicate it's a cut job. The fact it has no other information on it other than the head of George V is puzzling.

Usually the coin is milled out inside the rim and the second obverse dropped into place. Without a picture though, we still don't know if the obverses are from currency coins though as you haven't said. You will ahve to either reduce the image size to under 150kB or alternatively use a hosting site such as Photobucket. If the size is under 150kB, it is likely that you have selected the file, but not attached it. It will tell you when it has been uploaded.

Yes - there are essentially 3 stages :

1. Browse for the image on your computer

2. Upload it as an attachment

3. "Add to post"

Step 3 seems totally unnecessary, as step 2 should do that, but as it's done as 2 separate steps, Step 3 is easy to miss doing.

Also - do bear in mind that the image has to be a jpeg.

[VickySilver]

Yes a picture would be essential and would "up the pike" of my interests as well.

[soo1962]

The server keeps on returning an error during upload!!

the George V head is exactly like this one

coin-halfpenny-george-v-great-britain-1911

but with no legend. I think I said before it is around the diameter of a sovereign.

It was found in a tin of Australian pennies and half pennies, with a few english half pennies.

I was wondering if it was a misstruck coin, or a die sample or something. If it was a fake two headed coin, surely it would have the latin legend on it?

[Peckris]

The server keeps on returning an error during upload!!

the George V head is exactly like this one

coin-halfpenny-george-v-great-britain-1911

but with no legend. I think I said before it is around the diameter of a sovereign.

It was found in a tin of Australian pennies and half pennies, with a few english half pennies.

I was wondering if it was a misstruck coin, or a die sample or something. If it was a fake two headed coin, surely it would have the latin legend on it?

It's absolutely impossible to tell without seeing a picture.

When replying, below where you're typing, there's a section headed "Attachments".

1. Choose File (that lets you browse to where the image is on your computer)

2. Attach This File

3. After upload Add To Post

At which point do you get the error? And is the picture a jpeg?

[soo1962]

It's a jpeg. It's 79.9kb. I browse, attach file, and then it says 'the server returned an error during upload'. I've tried basic upload and flash upload.

Unless I can email it to anybody???

[soo1962]

Did some research today, a local numismatist is sure it is a 'gaming token' and it is brass (I think I said it was copper)but I still can't find much online with this information.

[Peckris]

Testing upload since all the problems ... :

Ah, it's not you. I've just got the same error. It's since the site had serious problems moving to a new server. Chris, who owns the site, ought to be told about this. Most people use an external host such as Photobucket and then post the link here, but I find a 10-step process like that (EXCLUDING the initial registration bollox) is really tiresome compared to a 3-click attachment within the post itself.

[Paulus]

The two side of this coin, posted on behalf of Soo1962 (Sue):

[Peckris]

The two side of this coin, posted on behalf of Soo1962 (Sue):

That's an interesting looking piece. It does seem to be right for a halfpenny that's had its legend removed, but a double header? Are there any signs that it's two 'heads' that have been not only treated (legend machined off) but then stuck together? There would be a faint join along the full length of the rim.