Cromwell Broad , always fancied one

[numismatist]

I saw one coming up in Auction described as GVF with 8K Start which is tempting

to have a bid at

One recently sold in DNW at 15K GEF Brilliant

Large BNTA Dealer has one 42.5K Virtually Mint

Grading on the first two is very fair, but the BNTA Dealers Broad I rate at GVF but

badly cleaned, with abrasions all over the surface. If enlarged it looks sand papered

Takes some working out ? Is the BNTA Dealer taking the P*** I wonder or have I missed something

All are Spink 3225..

If the buyer of the 42.5 K Broad ever come to sell it he will be well and truly stuffed

Photo 1 is 42.5K.....Photo 2 is 8K start in Auction ....Photo 3 (next page) is the 15K one

[numismatist]

Photo 3 the DNW 15K Broad

[Rob]

Are you sure those lines aren't on the die. They appear to go right up to the relief, but I can't see any on the bust. And the lines are parallel which is consistent with die polishing. It also has virtually no wear that I can see, so I would say the 42K one is the best. Who is selling it, Roddy or Ras? The DNW one will probably go for about £20K, but not sure about the lowest grade one. That's a filler rather than a desirable coin, so might not go over 10 because it has a few scratches along with the wear.

[numismatist]

Hello the DNW Sold at 15K so 24% more with the premium. The 42.5K one is Roddys,

and looking at it on his site I would say the scratches have been put on after

it was struck and the cleaning has removed a lot of the toning in the fields ?

I see what you mean about the 8K start one, it falls in second best I suppose

[Nicholas]

This coin is close to mint state, With the lines and colouring, you would have to see the coin in person to really know what was going on ie part of the coin production or as wear and tear... In any case you're not likely to get your money back at that price - not in this life time anyway...

[Accumulator]

Not something I collect or would usually comment on, but the 15k coin looks easily best value, when compared with the other two examples, and also wins on eye appeal. The abrasion on the expensive coin is off-putting.

[TomGoodheart]

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=489&lot=3928

[Nicholas]

Yes. I saw this one at Goldberg too. This is a really nice proof, but probably still won't beat 42k GBP! BTW hard to see the difference between this so called proof and circulating strike...

[TomGoodheart]

Yes. I saw this one at Goldberg too. This is a really nice proof, but probably still won't beat 42k GBP! BTW hard to see the difference between this so called proof and circulating strike...

Oh, I took the 'proof' thing with a pinch of salt. I'm not aware that such things existed in the mid-1600s. Yes, there were trial pieces or patterns. And with hammered coins the occasional 'fine work' piece. But proofs? I'd just call it a particularly nice example and leave it at that myself ...

.. and if you could get it for rather under US$ 45,000 I think it'd be a good alternative to Roddy's. From the photos anyway.

[Nicholas]

Agreed

[Nicholas]

and You might have to have a word to NGC who graded the coin Proof 62. I'd like to hear their reply.

[numismatist]

I keep on studying " Broads " and after " Rod " saying the scratches on the "Roddy 42.5K Broad"

might be on the Die, ive been looking in more detail and wonder of the " Roddy Broad " is a later

Restrike.... Broken " Q " on Reverse, " H " in Hib tipping over, Strange " E " in ET and " A "

in Pax. Seems to me there is numerous strange letters in the 42.5K one and weaknesses on the upper

quarters of the Reverse Sheild.