New guy here

[Michael]

I live in the US ive been trolling Ebay for a while ive bought a few low grade charles 1st coins which due to a limited budget most could be dicribled a Battered rather than hammered i have noticed what looks like a fairly large number of coins which look like they were just minted also theres seems to the tons of commomwealth half groats in a assortment of conditions a know ebays known as a home for fakes but are the fresh looking pieces fakes are from hoards or what Thanks Michael hicks

[azda]

Doubtful.......do you have a couple of item numbers that is concerning you or picrures?

[Red Riley]

I live in the US ive been trolling Ebay for a while ive bought a few low grade charles 1st coins which due to a limited budget most could be dicribled a Battered rather than hammered i have noticed what looks like a fairly large number of coins which look like they were just minted also theres seems to the tons of commomwealth half groats in a assortment of conditions a know ebays known as a home for fakes but are the fresh looking pieces fakes are from hoards or what Thanks Michael hicks

Hi Michael, welcome to the forum. There is always the possibility of fakes, but I would say that half groats are about the most common Commonwealth coins and as such you would expect them to turn up more regularly. Once again we shouldn't be complacent but coins from hoards are sometimes glued together with concretion and once they have been liberated can end up quite toneless.

[TomGoodheart]

Hi Michael. There are a few fake (modern replica) shillings of Charles I about. Most are shown here on ForgeryNetwork.com As you'll see, they are quite convincing until you ralise that there are several identical coins which with hammered just doesn't happen.

As for shiny, well, not all brand new looking coins are suspect. Hoard coins in particular may be 'museum' cleaned. Recently following their sale there have been a number of coins from the Bedale hoard on ebay and many of them are quite bright and in good condition. This coin from my collection is pretty much 'as struck' (though clipped) and presumably had been cleaned or found in unusual circumstances that somehow minimised toning.

The half groats I'm no expert on, but if you spot a shilling and are unsure about it post a link here and I (and a few others I'm sure) will happily give our opinion!

[Coinery]

And another 'bright' coin from the Bedale Hoard!

[Michael]

thanks ive bought of couple of Bedale hoard 6d s id thought they had been cleaned

[TomGoodheart]

thanks ive bought of couple of Bedale hoard 6d s id thought they had been cleaned

Yes, although it's imposrtant to distinguish between coins that have been professionally cleaned ('museum' cleaning) and those that someone has buffed up using some aluminium foil and spit (yes, people do that!) which effectively polishes (and rather ruins) them!

[Coinery]

thanks ive bought of couple of Bedale hoard 6d s id thought they had been cleaned

Yes, although it's imposrtant to distinguish between coins that have been professionally cleaned ('museum' cleaning) and those that someone has buffed up using some aluminium foil and spit (yes, people do that!) which effectively polishes (and rather ruins) them!

A type of 'improvement' that always brings tears to my eyes, and I never keep them, is the one which smears silver-coloured deposits actually over the original black deposits! I've always attributed it to some foiling-type process or other???

[TomGoodheart]

And in case you hadn't noticed Michael, I have a few shillings of Charles I for sale on the forum.

Here: Chas I shillings

[Peter]

Richard (Tom)

Trouble is Chas 1 1/- are not popular.I have a few. Not as nice as 1/4d's

[TomGoodheart]

Richard (Tom)

Trouble is Chas 1 1/- are not popular.I have a few. Not as nice as 1/4d's

Actually, that could be an advantage ...

Tell you what. I'm such a nice chap (as you can see from my username!!) If anyone wants to sell give me their unpopular (gVF or better unless rare please) Tower shillings I will generously take them off their hands to help make room for more farthings or similar.. I'll even pay postage.

[Peter]

I can get 50p per gram....melt them down My last slug of wine goes down..I love the Olympics