numismatist Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Hello all, is this recorded. Is it a broken O ? or a C on its side...thanks Quote
Coinery Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Same thoughts as Dave, no biggie, but I'd definitely prefer something of interest like this to a box-standard! Though truth be told I'd probably want one of each, it's not an ugly clog!No varieties mentioned in Peck extra to those in Spink! Quote
Rob Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Bramah p.125 refers here. Quote:'Minor Varieties. As it is difficult to find a specimen perfectly lettered it will be inferred that minor varieties abound. On the obv. side double cutting is general, and certain imperfections persist: as that the G never has a complete serif and the O is very often broken at top and base. The rev. generally shows one or more flaws. The curious in this matter may refer to Batty for 142 different kinds of flaws in the year 1844 alone. Of course many of these are merely more pronounced developments of the same flaw.'The last sentence should provide food for thought for all those who persist in 'identifying' so many micro varieties which are unintentional on the part of the engraver or mint and merely a function of die use such as blocked letters and die breaks. Edited July 20, 2012 by Rob Quote
numismatist Posted July 20, 2012 Author Posted July 20, 2012 Thanks " Rob " it amazing what detailed research now exists Quote
Rob Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Thanks " Rob " it amazing what detailed research now existsIt has done for many years. This was published in 1929 and Batty the century before. Edited July 20, 2012 by Rob Quote
Coinery Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Bramah p.125 refers here. Quote:'Minor Varieties. As it is difficult to find a specimen perfectly lettered it will be inferred that minor varieties abound. On the obv. side double cutting is general, and certain imperfections persist: as that the G never has a complete serif and the O is very often broken at top and base. The rev. generally shows one or more flaws. The curious in this matter may refer to Batty for 142 different kinds of flaws in the year 1844 alone. Of course many of these are merely more pronounced developments of the same flaw.'The last sentence should provide food for thought for all those who persist in 'identifying' so many micro varieties which are unintentional on the part of the engraver or mint and merely a function of die use such as blocked letters and die breaks.That's an interesting distinction in what constitutes a variety, and a decent and clear boundary for me to halt at! As I said above, I would likely want both the discussed coin AND the complete O coin without a good check-chain about my neck, it's a disease I'm happy to shake off in favour of the divide mentioned!However, I could still so easily find myself with 166 Broad Arrow Sixpences, purely on account of the fact that BCW have clearly distinguished the differences between them! Quote
Hello17 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 thanks all, I keep hoping !!I can't stop hopping either I have an 1844 half farthing. Darn Things are like the least valueable coin from that decade (or even half century)Mine is in my sell list but only if my dealer gives a good price. i expect at least £10 for mine which is in Super condition and curculated and no lustre. Like alot of 1ps now-e-days[not directly on topic ]Selling 30% of collection because i need some money. Too young to get a job. Don't Worry, i am keeping my awesome ones (i.e. 1929 (UNC/aUNC) Shilling /1989 PENNY) Quote
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