c4shin Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanks Quote
Accumulator Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksHello and welcome to the forum. Although your photographs are not terribly clear it would appear you have an 1882H victorian 'bun head' penny (look for the small letter 'H' below the date, denoting the Heaton mint). Unfortunately the coin appears to have been cleaned and is in poor condition. In this state it is of little value to a collector. Quote
Debbie Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I'm sorry that this is a bit off topic. but I have been meaning to ask you Accumulator...what IS that coin that you use as your avatar ? Quote
Peter Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I'm sorry that this is a bit off topic. but I have been meaning to ask you Accumulator...what IS that coin that you use as your avatar ? I'll get in first. More's model ? Quote
Peter Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksIt is a bit of history but unfortunatly cleaned.However the grade is very low so a £7 coin becomes 50p. Get yourself an uncirculated,uncleaned version and then you can appreciate the beauty of the Victorian Bun head copper. Quote
c4shin Posted February 17, 2012 Author Posted February 17, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksHello and welcome to the forum. Although your photographs are not terribly clear it would appear you have an 1882H victorian 'bun head' penny (look for the small letter 'H' below the date, denoting the Heaton mint). Unfortunately the coin appears to have been cleaned and is in poor condition. In this state it is of little value to a collector.many thanks for your reply Quote
Rob Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I'm sorry that this is a bit off topic. but I have been meaning to ask you Accumulator...what IS that coin that you use as your avatar ? A pattern penny by Joseph Moore, struck in 1844, though there are also undated pennies and halfpennies which are much more common and can be picked up for a few pounds. The piece in question is a Peck 2088. Joseph Moore was a Birmingham die sinker who alos produced a number of patterns dated 1860. The model coins were produced in considerable numbers and found favour with the public who had to carry around the heavy mint pennies in the normal course of trade. The diameter for the model pennies is 22.5mm compared to 34 for the mint product. They are also thinner. They were so popular that the mint had to dislaim any responsibility for them. Quote
Debbie Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Oh.....I see! Does that mean Accumulator owns one of the 3 1844's in existence?!! link Quote
Accumulator Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Oh.....I see! Does that mean Accumulator owns one of the 3 1844's in existence?!! link Hi Debbie, Rob has said just about everything I could have told you about the coin. And yes, I believe there are only 3 or 4 of the 1844 dated pennies in existence. I also have one of the spelling error (PENNEY instead of PENNY) coins which are fun. Quote
Accumulator Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksIt is a bit of history but unfortunatly cleaned.However the grade is very low so a £7 coin becomes 50p. Get yourself an uncirculated,uncleaned version and then you can appreciate the beauty of the Victorian Bun head copper.Not FDC, but a reasonable example. Note the missing bar to the H: Edited February 17, 2012 by Accumulator Quote
Peckris Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksSorry, my mind reading abilities have gone a bit rusty. Perhaps Derren Brown might help? Quote
Debbie Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Nice photo and fab coin! Thanks for that.I like how you can see the beading on the inner ring at the top looks doubled up - little things... Quote
Rob Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Oh.....I see! Does that mean Accumulator owns one of the 3 1844's in existence?!! link Hi Debbie, Rob has said just about everything I could have told you about the coin. And yes, I believe there are only 3 or 4 of the 1844 dated pennies in existence. I also have one of the spelling error (PENNEY instead of PENNY) coins which are fun.A couple of larger pics:One Moore (sorry) thing to add. At least you have the start of a provenance, this coin being the same one as illustrated by David Magnay in Debbie's link (see matching discolouration pattern). If I can remember/find where Magnay sold his model coinage, I'll see if there is any further provenance. I do know they weren't part of his fractionals and 1860 pattern pennies sale at DNW on 3/2/1999. Quote
Accumulator Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) One Moore (sorry) thing to add. At least you have the start of a provenance, this coin being the same one as illustrated by David Magnay in Debbie's link (see matching discolouration pattern). If I can remember/find where Magnay sold his model coinage, I'll see if there is any further provenance. I do know they weren't part of his fractionals and 1860 pattern pennies sale at DNW on 3/2/1999.Thanks Rob. I was led to believe that my coin was ex David Magnay (possibly via Bronze & Copper Collector from this forum?). I'd certainly appreciate any other information you may come across. Edited February 19, 2012 by Accumulator Quote
Cerbera100 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 hello need help on why i want to keep this coin is ther any1 got ideas on what or why i want to keep it. as im not a coin collector.any info would be grateful thanksSorry, my mind reading abilities have gone a bit rusty. Perhaps Derren Brown might help? My thoughts exactly! After I'd spent 5mins working out what was meant...! Quote
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