1856 farthing

[Russ777]

Hi I have an 1856 farthing

there appears to be a tiny numeral like a '7' and perhaps a 5 impressed into the very edge of the coin above Victoria's profile

so together it could be '57'

Is there any reason why this may have been done the more I look it it does look like a tiny 5 and 7 spaced out over DEI

is there any reason why his would have been done could it have been off one of the dies and not intended to be impressed

Of could this have been done by some eccentric victorian but why bother? The rim also looks quite raised both sides

Thanks Russ777

[Russ777]

To add the numbers are sideways on reading down rhe edge of coin not perpendicular to the Queens head.

Probably another case of seeing marks/things that are not there

But fascinating it does look like a '7'

Russ777

[VickySilver]

Pictures PLEASE!

[HistoryTreasures]

Yeah where's the evidence?

[Russ777]

Hi heres a close up pic. Could not post last night as too dull. Where we are lookinhg is just above the DEI on heads side

I thought it might just be a ding but the one that looks like a '7' got me...

[Russ777]

Heres the whole coin in case I missed anything. Maybe tampered with or in production? Some areas of coin very clear

[azda]

I can't see anything at all

[Russ777]

I can't see anything at all

Well it might be my vivid imagination but if you look at first scan it looks like a numeral '7' in the rim just below the D of 'DEI'

its small but can you see what I am on about now???

Russ777

[Russ777]

if you left click on the part view pic it brings it up slightly better, looking at the rim below by D on outer edge looks like a 7 numeral

[Rob]

I can't see anything at all

Well it might be my vivid imagination but if you look at first scan it looks like a numeral '7' in the rim just below the D of 'DEI'

its small but can you see what I am on about now???

Russ777

I see a vague shape which is presumably what you mean, but it is in minimal relief. There is also a stop between the G & R of GRATIA which is more prominent than the '7' but which also shouldn't be there. Given the condition of the coin, any non-standard feature would have to be very prominent to gain any credibility. Unless you can show a similar feature on one that is close to mint state or where there is no question of environmental damage, you are on a hiding to nothing.

[Russ777]

Thanks Rob at least you can see what I mean

above the I in the rim of DEI there also appears a '5' shape

It just seems very neat where it is placed

Russ777

[VickySilver]

Think I need to visit my optometrist....Just do not see anything I would consider remarkable. Good somebody has eyes, but seriously I think it would have to be a bit more prominent to be of note. Keep up the alert level to scouting these coins. Did you just happen to glance at the coin and see this or do you look at all your coins in such detail?

[£400 for a Penny ?]

Right.

It was a bit like staring at one of those pictures composed out of dots and suddenly it leaps out at you.

However, they are both 5's are they not ?

[£400 for a Penny ?]

What's the distance between them - 5mm ?

[Peckris]

57 huh? When exactly did Heinz start up?

[HistoryTreasures]

More to the point, how did the coin get so ugly?

[£400 for a Penny ?]

More to the point, how did the coin get so ugly?

Probably a test bed for all sorts of goings on....