Colin G. Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 My latest purchase, and a farthing error I have never seen before, or even seen recorded. It is an 1874H with the O in Victoria having been repunched sideways. Similar to the G/G but with the O this time. I would be interested in knowing if anyone else has seen this variety recorded before. I am unaware of it in any of the Colin Cooke catalogues etc.It is instantly apparent when holding the coin even without a lens 3 Quote
RLC35 Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 I've checked all of my 1874-H...all of them are correctly punched. Good find though Colin, I'll start checking the Dealers for them.Bob C. Quote
Colin G. Posted August 11, 2009 Author Posted August 11, 2009 I've checked all of my 1874-H...all of them are correctly punched. Good find though Colin, I'll start checking the Dealers for them.Bob C.It cost me a fair few quid, so I am hoping there are not too many out there 1 Quote
wybrit Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 That's a nice find. I couldn't see the same overstrike on any of mine, but I did find this: the C in "Victoria" struck over another C: 3 Quote
Martinminerva Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 Ok, not an O over sideways O, nor a G over sideways G, but I have just listed on eBay an 1874H farthing with C over C as per wybrit's post above, if anyone's interested, with this link... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284069502338 I have another one myself, so this one listed is a duplicate, but I don't know how many more have been noted? Not as spectacular as the sideways double entries, but it's there if anyone wants it as a variety! 2 Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 It also has an R over R in BRITT Martin , more clearly seen on the Wybrit coin above. 1 Quote
Jeff Gunn Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 How do over strikes occur in the minting process? are the individual over struck numbers letters/numbers individually applied by hand in some form of QA check/process after the initial striking of the coin? if so should the really be considered a variety? the reason I ask is, theoretical if it hand struck then you could possibly have endless possibilities/combinations sub varieties to consider. Not that I am distracting for the these anomalies but when collecting a date run for instance should they really be considered a variety or an anomaly? Quote
Martinminerva Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 It is the DIE, not the individual struck coins that are altered/repaired/corrected before more coins are struck from them! No-one could possibly go about changing each and every coin of the tens of thousands struck by each die! Besides, any alteration to a coin would be incuse, not in relief. But dies are mirror images of course so an incuse detail on a die becomes a relief detail on a struck coin. Just like potato prints or play dough prints when we were kids! Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Jeff Gunn said: How do over strikes occur in the minting process? are the individual over struck numbers letters/numbers individually applied by hand in some form of QA check/process after the initial striking of the coin? if so should the really be considered a variety? the reason I ask is, theoretical if it hand struck then you could possibly have endless possibilities/combinations sub varieties to consider. Not that I am distracting for the these anomalies but when collecting a date run for instance should they really be considered a variety or an anomaly? Why would they strike millions of coins then overstrike each one? No, as Martin says, it's the die that gets recut either to reuse it or to correct an error or to recut wearing characters. 1 Quote
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