1911 1/2d A+b unlisted by Freeman

[Zo Arms]

On 1/6/2008 at 5:25 PM, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

. so possibly I only know of 2 definite specimens plus the other presumed examples......

If the sellers photos are to be believed, I think I've picked up another one.

[Zo Arms]

[Zo Arms]

Arrived from Spain yesterday. Pleased to say that it is one.

9 1/2 date space and D to a tooth.

Far better condition than I was expecting.

Via this thread, a population of 7, known or presumed, since 2008.

Extremely rare, or only 5 people bothered to look for one. Possibly the latter.😁

[Zo Arms]

[PWA 1967]

Thought i should put my example on this thread ,talking to Michael Gouby he is not sure he has owned one.

Edited August 19, 2024 by PWA 1967

[Zo Arms]

If Mr Freeman and Mr Gouby have never owned one, who was it that recognised the four die pairings?

Mr Dracott?

[PWA 1967]

50 minutes ago, Zo Arms said:

If Mr Freeman and Mr Gouby have never owned one, who was it that recognised the four die pairings?

Mr Dracott?

It could of been anyone Bob i guess ,as far as i can see its just a date width variety and probably more collectors made aware of it with the benefit of the internet ?.

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

It is actually 2 different obverses and 2 different reverses. The reverse being a difference in spacing.

 

[PWA 1967]

37 minutes ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

It is actually 2 different obverses and 2 different reverses. The reverse being a difference in spacing.

 

Yes although the two different obverse dies are well known and two different date widths that give four different die combination varieties instead of two ?.

Edited August 19, 2024 by PWA 1967

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

1 hour ago, PWA 1967 said:

Yes although the two different obverse dies are well known and two different date widths that give four different die combination varieties instead of two ?.

Yes:

Aa, Ab, Ba, and Bb

[PWA 1967]

2 minutes ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

Yes:

Aa, Ab, Ba, and Bb

Yes ,i believe Ab is rare ,Ba scarce and Aa ,Bb both common ,is that correct Gary as just what i was told this morning ?

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

4 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

Yes ,i believe Ab is rare ,Ba scarce and Aa ,Bb both common ,is that correct Gary as just what i was told this morning ?

I believe that to be fairly accurate,  based on my recollection from when I was trying to locate examples for my collection.