Collectors' Coins Great Britain 2007 Edition

[Gary]

I have just recieved my copy of the 2007 edition and after a quick glance through it, I must say I am impressed. I think this book is definitley going in the right direction. Colour Photos, and good ones at that.

I have not looked too close for mistakes yet and do not expect to find any (many :-)). Well done Chris. What`s planned for the next edition? Listings from from the beginning of the milled series?

Edited November 16, 2006 by Gary

[Chris Perkins]

I do intend to push further back in time, but it will be quite a task to get all the images together I suspect. The 2008 edition will be re-type set and will make better use of colour, perhaps having a colour coded outside page margin for each denomination and generally a more modern look.

[josie]

How about rare coin of britain or compilation of extremely rare.

If others motivate by something others will be motivated by rarity and price.

[Chris Perkins]

There are lots of rare and extremely rare coins in the book already. I don't think it would call for a separate book if that's what you meant. It may confuse the public (like with the 1983 mule 2p for example).

I was thinking of having some kind of checklist in the book, perhaps with boxes to tick when the coin is in possession, and space after every type for notes. But then I thought that once someone has used a book to tick what they have and make notes they may be unlikely to buy a newer one because they'd have to re-copy all the info. Any thoughts?

[josie]

Yes it is a good idea for ticking the collection more a personalized book your signature maybe also new if you like next time you sign it,it is upto you to charge.

Im thinking more like cherry picker guide in USA or extremely rare in GB.it will be new didnt know like that.

[Hussulo]

There are lots of rare and extremely rare coins in the book already. I don't think it would call for a separate book if that's what you meant. It may confuse the public (like with the 1983 mule 2p for example).

I was thinking of having some kind of checklist in the book, perhaps with boxes to tick when the coin is in possession, and space after every type for notes. But then I thought that once someone has used a book to tick what they have and make notes they may be unlikely to buy a newer one because they'd have to re-copy all the info. Any thoughts?

I think you could be right Chris. I personally don't like to draw or make notes in any of my books. I can see the point if it is a new collector wishing to collect a certain type or a date run, but still I'm sure they could just as easily jot their info down on a note book or something.

Signed copies are a good Idea I know I'd buy one.

How much for a signed copy of Collectors' Coins Great Britain 2007 edition as I haven’t got it yet?

Edited November 16, 2006 by Hussulo

[Rob]

There are lots of rare and extremely rare coins in the book already. I don't think it would call for a separate book if that's what you meant. It may confuse the public (like with the 1983 mule 2p for example).

I was thinking of having some kind of checklist in the book, perhaps with boxes to tick when the coin is in possession, and space after every type for notes. But then I thought that once someone has used a book to tick what they have and make notes they may be unlikely to buy a newer one because they'd have to re-copy all the info. Any thoughts?

I think you could be right Chris. I personally don't like to draw or make notes in any of my books. I can see the point if it is a new collector wishing to collect a certain type or a date run, but still I'm sure they could just as easily jot their info down on a note book or something.

Signed copies are a good Idea I know I'd buy one.

How much for a signed copy of Collectors' Coins Great Britain 2007 edition as I haven’t got it yet?

I find it imperative to make notes in a reference book because there are so many varieties for the same date that you need to know which ones you have. Having said that, it can get a bit confusing when the book is second hand and there are two collections listed. But at least that saves defacing two books.

[josie]

One that I observe in most ref. books is the priced guide,since the inclusion of colored picture for better images,As I said didnt see a book in all denominations of coin obv and reverse.

It is expensive us author and publisher know,since you have an extra hand,building a site and compiling good quality picture and grade by the help of collectors expert and thier collection,the photogarding you like to materialized is getting nearer.

Well I have a copy of your book,but the coin of britain represent only a portion in CCGB most of them are new find and result in auction houses or priced guide.

since there are many books in CCGB and amazons that covers the coin of britain.They are not compiled for cost and publishing reason,I dont know if the ref. books is more into price most of them have that.

But a book with good quality picture like the compilation of predecimal member or the collection of some one they know,I didnt see anything published,

CCGB is not enough to cover the GB coin in one issue that is only my opinion,Maybe CCGB with volume issue per year for modern,victorian,milled or celtic.but the result the failure and success of selling the volume is risky depends on how many will buy.

Most of the collector also spend more on books also in coin,It is more on idealistic than a reality for the judge will be the sales and will risk the time,effort and money publishing it.

Maybe published it in volume in one time and updated in the future.

[Geordie582]

Tick Boxes?? Are we turning into a version of twitchers? Does seeing a coin in a museum count?

[josie]

Well replace the tick boxes with images of one known coin in the series in high grade, like EMP have,wonder how many issue to buy to complete the nail images.

[josie]

About the 1990 5 pence smaller size it all listed as proof in CCGB.

no in circulation but on other reference they note in BU,

I or others may misinterpret that thier is no 1990 5 pence in circulation so I check in other reference they are in circulation.

[Chris Perkins]

Well spotted, I've made a note of that.

The 2008 edition will have a very different decimal section as decimals will of course be covered in a whole 84 page book (Check Your Change).

Do you think I should remove decimals completely and perhaps push the book further back to the start of GeoIII's reign? Mind you, the currect decimal section in CCGB is very small.

[josie]

Thanks chris.

[josie]

Well spotted, I've made a note of that.

The 2008 edition will have a very different decimal section as decimals will of course be covered in a whole 84 page book (Check Your Change).

Do you think I should remove decimals completely and perhaps push the book further back to the start of GeoIII's reign? Mind you, the currect decimal section in CCGB is very small.

Well one thing to know it is by poll from this forum and from your associate.

US have diff. books I guess its time for GB to have books on diff. denomination like other specialized book from copper up,well CCGB 2007 is the first book posted in world books in coinlink,

CCGB is not enough to cover the GB coin in one issue that is only my opinion,Maybe CCGB with volume issue per year for modern,victorian,milled or celtic.but the result the failure and success of selling the volume is risky depends on how many will buy,I quoted this on one of my post.

Their is also a photograding books also saw in coinlink.

For me I have still lot of things to learn but expert who have a personal notes and other find not know and recorded that is still something else if it exist

[Peter]

Predecimal seems a good cut off.

Decimal is only going to get bigger (you've already managed 84 pages)

With CCGB2008 or 2009?

Including George 111 would seem a good idea but I think you would need a big section on copper and the forgeries/evasions of the time as numistically they were vey important.

The silver is a very short series...Gold...not too bad....but please picture a few of the Victorian "spade" brass gaming tokens.

Pre George 111 is far more specialised and as a specialist collector I would prefer higher quality hard back reference books/price guides.

Cost really doesn't come into the equation (well I would pay more than £4.95)

[Rob]

Predecimal seems a good cut off.

Decimal is only going to get bigger (you've already managed 84 pages)

With CCGB2008 or 2009?

Including George 111 would seem a good idea but I think you would need a big section on copper and the forgeries/evasions of the time as numistically they were vey important.

The silver is a very short series...Gold...not too bad....but please picture a few of the Victorian "spade" brass gaming tokens.

Pre George 111 is far more specialised and as a specialist collector I would prefer higher quality hard back reference books/price guides.

Cost really doesn't come into the equation (well I would pay more than £4.95)

I'd agree with most of this. Prices for pre 1797 copper at the top end would be extremely difficult to accurately present. The scarcity of quality early copper gives a lot of scope for variation because the price is determined more by the number of bidders present at sales, these always outnumbering the coins available. Silver from the same period is relatively easier to obtain in high grade and so easier to price.

[Chris Perkins]

I think stretching back to 1760 with mention of the Victorian immitation guineas and a couple of forgery illustrations is the way to go. It might take some time, so would probably be something for CCGB2009 to give me time to source the images etc.

For 2008 I'll shorten the decimal section even further, to just a list with no illustrations. I'll make sure Check Your Change is mentioned prominently.

I think the most noticable new feature with CCGB2008 is going to be a new - much easier on the eye - layout. 2007 had colour images (and gold coins for the first time) and 2008 will make even more use of colour along similar lines as the Check Your Change layout.

It's all very exciting you know! Even when I think back to my first CCGB which was the 2005 issue, it's come a long way in such a short time and I keep getting new ideas to make it a little better each time.

[josie]

It's all very exciting you know! Even when I think back to my first CCGB which was the 2005 issue, it's come a long way in such a short time and I keep getting new ideas to make it a little better each time.

Yeah very exciting especially those are base in GB,way back in other site they are asking question on when UK books will be published,especially the new find they are somewhat waiting for it,well somebooks are published in the opening of 2007.

Yeah your 2005 your short of copy well thier is rotographic maybe in the future if Im good in computer and storing file.

Forgey books is good especially to those who buy gold in expensive and high quality piece it is better to have a guide than sorry.especially other members mentioned something happen to that gold.

[josie]

On page 14 and 15

Farthing 1946 to 1952 not listed.

[Geordie582]

I think stretching back to 1760

Let me know when you decide to go back to 1190!

[josie]

I dont know but the binding or the spine of the book, it is the first time I have CCGB so I use it alot.

[Chris Perkins]

Is the binding not strong enough?

[josie]

Is the binding not strong enough?

Maybe its strong its my first CCGB book so I turn the page alot,the middle of the book is quite splitting,maybe its not the book or its just me or maybe the recent topic sometimes I browse on the forum also on some reference book I have ,for me if the book is going to be use for ref. it is much better to have a stich on the back one year is quite a time to wait for another issue especially if you are going to relase a new ref. book.

Good book though besides of the variety that is listed in every colunm their is also notes on the side its save time if your browsing a book specially for variety or just the book is good in information to be used with other ref. for quick reading.

[Peter]

Chris

See if you can get your hands on a spiral bound red book.

CCGB would be great in that format.

[Chris Perkins]

Some good ideas. Spiral bound might even be cheaper than perfect bound.

I think that the vast majority of CCGB owners find that the existing format serves their purposes for a year, so I think most of the print run would be absolutely fine as they are. I do recognise that there are a few fanatics like Josie that use their books an awful lot, so I'll see if I can do some special ones next time. For 2007 I did actually almost do a few limited edition hard backs.