Gary D Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Just look at this beauty, but would you dare bid on it. Could you ever tell if its genuin without a lot of close looking. What would you look for http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...mMakeTrack=true Quote
Emperor Oli Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Just look at this beauty, but would you dare bid on it. Could you ever tell if its genuin without a lot of close looking. What would you look for http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...mMakeTrack=true I'd look from where the seller was first. South America doesn't seem a likely place for something like this to turn up, but that's just me. Quote
Peter Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 A nice coin (possibly whizzed) and maybe a famed 1905 forgery. My own feelings are mixed. He collects or is buying UK silver and has good feedback. He hasn't feedback for selling. If you are keen silver collector surely this would be a pinnacle of your collection. South America cons are no different to UK cons.ie very little can be done.Caveat emptor.PS what is the going rate for a forgery?...collectable in their own right. Quote
Peter Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Thinking out loud...everyone will sit on the fence until someone with a resonable feedback/reputation puts a bid in then all hell will break loose.Snipe it Let me know ...& I may well watch out for his 17/18 C cu. Quote
Gary D Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 "PS what is the going rate for a forgery?...collectable in their own right. "A good one must be the best part of £200. There is a bit of wear on this one, the I and P are getting weak. I wonder if he bought it and found it to be dodgy so is sticking it out on ebay to see if he can recoup. Must go for £1500-2000 or everyone will stay well clear. I,m not tempted yet. I'd want too get it checked out before I would part with more than £100 on the off chance.Gary Quote
Sylvester Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Initial impression, hmm hard to tell.I'm tempted to say that's a fake though, i can't give any certainty on that. Firstly due to how the coin is photographed/scanned it can make the coin look greyer than it is.What reassures me a little is that the seller hasn't hyped it "L@@k incredibly rare, the key date of all key dates..." and all that nonsense, infact the seller has really just not done anything to draw attention to the fact that it's an extremely rare coin, infact all he has done is put 'rare', in lower case rather matter of factly. Which makes me think what Gary thinks, this guy thought it was genuine and is trying to dispose of it.The other thing that makes me think it's a dud is that it looks a little... well lacking something.The fields look fairly clean, too clean in fact. A coin of that grade should have a little scuffing on the obverse fields, yet the fields look pretty good considering those two edge knocks and the digs in Edward's face.Looks a bit leady too, the ear, the ear just gets me.I can't point out anything in particular that screams *fake*, but something doesn't quite add up with it. I think the fact that it looks so clean and fairly new might have something to do with it.But then again that could all be explained with the fact that the coin might have had a good polish at some point in the past.I'd let it go myself, i doubt it's genuine. But i can't point to anything in particular and say, "it's fake because of XYZ" Quote
Rob Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I believe the fakes are thicker than the genuine item. That's only what I've been told though, I've never seen one. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Hmm.. Several of his previous buyers are people I recognise from their tags, or have done busuness with, so as a seller he looks generally sound.That of course doesn't mean he knows his British coins and could tell a fake bought in good faith.It's the hassle of trying to return the thing if you weren't happy with it...If anyone IS thinking of bidding I'd suggest asking for additional photos and about a returns policy - if you don't get satisfactory answers - back off! Quote
wybrit Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) I know 85% of you hate slabs and they're not always reliable, but this is one case where I'd want it slabbed, unless it was from a dealer of unimpeachable expertise.I wouldn't touch it. If someone wins it and it turns out to be real, I tip my hat to him/her. Edited February 22, 2006 by wybrit Quote
Sylvester Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 That might change though Wybrit with all these fake slabs coming in from China recently. Quote
Gary D Posted February 22, 2006 Author Posted February 22, 2006 Oh well, someones taken the plunge. Quote
i_collect_coins_and_stamps Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 totally agree olly its a con Quote
i_collect_coins_and_stamps Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HALF-CROWN-VERY-RARE...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote
i_collect_coins_and_stamps Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 wow id love that for the fakeness of it you must say they do well to make them Quote
Gary D Posted March 20, 2006 Author Posted March 20, 2006 A known fake went at auction recently for if I remember correctly about £250. Quote
wybrit Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Genuine or fake, that one has a rubbish price. Quote
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