Thick flan?

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I dont have this Halfpenny coin to hand but noticed what looks to be possibly a thick flan would you agree or not? I appreciate its not so easy to be sure from the image provided.

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A worn penny is measuring 1mm thick, proportionally this halfpenny looks thick to me.

I have measured the C in Victoria on a Halfpenny I have to hand using a vernier caliper the C seem's close to 2mm in height. 

Using the above image if I measure the C in Victoria then apply that to rim of the coin it appears similar thickness of roughly 2mm I know the image is on an angle which may change the accuracy of those measurments. It just looks thick to me.

The halfpenny coins I have measure around 1.2- 1.3mm thick. The imaged coin is clearly thicker than that.

What do you think?

Thanks

Edited Saturday at 09:33 AM by absence of uniformity

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By measuring the top crossbar of the T on a coin I have to have it roughly 1.28-1.30mm if I measure the crossbar on the T on the above image then apply that measurement to the rim it suggest the Rim of the imaged coin is wider than 1.3mm.

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The coin is 1874 H 10+J and I noticed this listed for 10+J : 1874H 10+J Thick flan R20

Edited Saturday at 10:57 AM by absence of uniformity

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I just seen on LCA website there is a 1874 H Thick flan coin rated R20 listed as 2mm thick...

When comparing the imaged coin to the LCA example I cant see any differences in the die pairing.

The imaged coins is in alot better condition than the LCA coin which sold for £600. They state a EF example sold for £3042.

 

Edited Saturday at 11:19 AM by absence of uniformity

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2 hours ago, absence of uniformity said:

I dont have this Halfpenny coin to hand but noticed what looks to be possibly a thick flan would you agree or not? I appreciate its not so easy to be sure from the image provided.

Just from this image alone would you not agree the flan thickness appears a similar width to the height to the C in Victoria? 

[Coinery]

No way you’re new to this, your language and approach is not elementary, it’s very weird! I know it’s not helpful or constructive to say this but I am really struggling, I can’t pitch you at all.

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57 minutes ago, Coinery said:

No way you’re new to this, your language and approach is not elementary, it’s very weird! I know it’s not helpful or constructive to say this but I am really struggling, I can’t pitch you at all.

What are you talking about ? I found a coin online for sale that is a 1874 H which I have identified as 10+J ( I could be wrong) And it would appear it has has a thick rim. I'm simply asking the forum for advice.............. I dont understand these assumptions/accusations what's it all about? what is the problem. I'm asking a genuine question to the forum looking for advice and thoughts on my theory I have put forward. What is so mind boggling to you about this? The questions is really simple. Yes I have used my brain in producing this question why is that so alarming? 

Tell me what is weird? What's not elementary? pitch me? explain to me what you are getting at

Edited Saturday at 11:28 PM by absence of uniformity

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Why should I constantly have to prove myself. You bought no value to this discussion instead you suggest im being dishonest.

Im really starting to find it rude. What is so hard to understand about asking a valid question? You have been quite supportive to my journey so far then suddenly you getting all weird.  

Edited Saturday at 11:54 PM by absence of uniformity

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Do you resent me for putting in the legwork and finding the coins I have found?

You cant sit back overlook the coins then to make yourself feel better about it by start chucking around accusations.

I'm not weird for your shortcomings.

[Coinery]

You are just very unusual, that’s all, you have the language and insights of someone who has put years into understanding numismatics, not short months. You appear to have achieved a great deal of knowledge in a very short timeframe, it’s baffling…I’d take it as a compliment!

[Peckris 2]

15 hours ago, absence of uniformity said:

Why should I constantly have to prove myself. You bought no value to this discussion instead you suggest im being dishonest.

Im really starting to find it rude. What is so hard to understand about asking a valid question? You have been quite supportive to my journey so far then suddenly you getting all weird.  

I'd be very interested to learn the sources you used for the knowledge you've acquired? No accusations, I'm just genuinely interested!

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On 5/10/2026 at 10:10 AM, Coinery said:

You are just very unusual, that’s all, you have the language and insights of someone who has put years into understanding numismatics, not short months. You appear to have achieved a great deal of knowledge in a very short timeframe, it’s baffling…I’d take it as a compliment!

In this post the one single numismatic term which I used is Flan.. The coin question is listed in black and white including the word flan.

I asked the seller of the coin "does the rim of the coin have damaged" In order to obtain images of the edge of the coin without raising suspicion. And that's it.

I dont even know for sure if the pairing is even 10+J. (So this could all be a complete waste of time) 

Richard's website lists the halfpenny types, the die pairings and the rarity rating so no knowledge is required. 

I have just noticed a coin which looks thick and by chance its possibly 10+J zero knowledge was required to reach this point. 

It was logical to measure the letters on a coin I have and then apply those measurements to the image IMO just basic pragmatic approach to my own question.

 

 

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18 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

I'd be very interested to learn the sources you used for the knowledge you've acquired? No accusations, I'm just genuinely interested!

What exactly are you referring to ? Im here asking a question which would suggest I dont have the "knowledge" I exclusively use Richard's website Michael Freemans book and the LCA website. Between those three sources of information the only detailed info availible I'm missing is from the other specialists. Have you noticed nearly all of my questions are not related to anything written by M Gouby........ Because I dont have access to any of it or Dracott etc. I use the info availible to me I dont retain any of the knowledge. Every single coin I look or come across I check it against the info I have availible to me. Its a question of Probability all thats seen here is the very few leads that actually have potential that I cant exclude myself as nothing. It really is as simple as that.  Im super intense with my research and efforts, as I have explained to you previously you get out what you put in. I was lucky enough to find a couple of super rare coins which gave me a huge boost of motivation. I dont really have much else to say about this.

 

[Coinery]

Business as usual, then! I still reserve the right to think you unusual, though. Keep going.

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9 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Business as usual, then! I still reserve the right to think you unusual, though. Keep going.

That's fine, but do you think the coin/question of this post is unusual in terms of the apparent thickness. Nobody addressed it. Everyone wants to talk about knowledge or language. Does the appearance of the this halfpenny coin look thicker than normal using the limited info I have put forward. I purchased the coin so will find out sooner rather later anyway. I didnt want to ask the seller for a weight for obvious reason's. 

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