Michael-Roo Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) Here’s a recent find I thought I should share with the group. 1701 halfpenny with an obverse reading of IERTIVS for TERTIVS and, as far as I know, previously unrecorded. My initial, and obvious, thought was die fill on the crossbar of the T, but on closer inspection I see no evidence of a bar, and the letter is an exact match for the I in GVLIELMVS but not the second T in TERTIVS. Edited October 28 by Michael-Roo 1 Quote
Rob Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Anyone with a correctly spelt legend on William III obverses, please make yourselves known now. It seems easier to find an error than a correct legend in this time period. Yet another to add to the list. 1 Quote
copper123 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 These coins are a nightmare often weekly struck and with other things wrong with them they make a wonderful life's work for anyone sorry but we need a higher grade coin to confirm it but it probably does not exist , interesting and frustrating at the same time Quote
copper123 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 Just now, copper123 said: These coins are a nightmare often weekly struck and with other things wrong with them they make a wonderful life's work for anyone sorry but we need a higher grade coin to confirm it but it probably does not exist , interesting and frustrating at the same time P > S looks like unbarred A's on reverse as well Quote
Michael-Roo Posted November 13 Author Posted November 13 I'm pretty sure they were struck more often than on a weekly basis.... It does exist. I know my 17th century copper well enough to confirm the letter is an I, and which is even more obvious 'in hand'. I see people listing 1700 and 1701 on ebay, stating their coins to be the rare unbarred As variety. Unbarred is the norm. As with bars are the ones to look out for. Quote
copper123 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, Michael-Roo said: I'm pretty sure they were struck more often than on a weekly basis.... It does exist. I know my 17th century copper well enough to confirm the letter is an I, and which is even more obvious 'in hand'. I see people listing 1700 and 1701 on ebay, stating their coins to be the rare unbarred As variety. Unbarred is the norm. As with bars are the ones to look out for. Everyone likes a nice bar LOL 1 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted November 14 Author Posted November 14 10 hours ago, copper123 said: Everyone likes a nice bar LOL Indeed! 🙂 1 Quote
oldcopper Posted Friday at 10:15 PM Posted Friday at 10:15 PM According to Peck barred A's never occur on 1701 halfpence. Quote
copper123 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago On 11/21/2025 at 10:15 PM, oldcopper said: According to Peck barred A's never occur on 1701 halfpence. He did miss a few things freeman 530 for example and many pennies are missing he also admitted he was keener on the soho period and william iii halfpence were not his favorites Quote
Michael-Roo Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Here's one I found last year, GV over B on the obverse. Extremely rare in any grade. Edited 9 hours ago by Michael-Roo 3 Quote
Rob Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said: Here's one I found last year, GV over B on the obverse. Extremely rare in any grade. I still think there is only one die for these, as that was the 4th I'm aware of, and they are definitely the same obverses. There are 2 different reverse dies however, which is probably to be expected (see alignment of 17 and final A). My current example is the third coin, which I picked up in DNW 76, lot 287. My first one came from ebay in 2004 and both cost a tenner. Excuse the GV/B 1694 which was added to keep things neat. That was the discovery piece by Colin Cooke in 2004. I have since upgraded that with the superb example in London Coins 168, lot 1407. I saw it, GV/B not mentioned in the description, compared with mine and promptly put a very large 'must buy' label in my shopping list. Those are the only two I have recorded, but there must more out there. 1 Quote
Rob Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) And my 1694 upgrade. Quite chuffed. . Thankfully people focussed on the description which said pitted flan, which is due to it being cast rather than rolled as per spec, but as that accounts for half the halfpennies or more of this period, should not be something to worry about. Edited 8 hours ago by Rob 3 Quote
oldcopper Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, copper123 said: He did miss a few things freeman 530 for example and many pennies are missing he also admitted he was keener on the soho period and william iii halfpence were not his favorites Yes, not helped by the fact most survive in terrible condition and most were not even properly struck in the first place. 1 Quote
oldcopper Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Quite a spectacular overstrike. As Rob says, the GV/B was a discovery piece in the Nicholson collection of 2004 (lot 153), although Nicholson had lost it at the time, and was "still looking for it", so it wasn't for sale! 1 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted 15 minutes ago Author Posted 15 minutes ago 8 hours ago, Rob said: And my 1694 upgrade. Quite chuffed. . Thankfully people focussed on the description which said pitted flan, which is due to it being cast rather than rolled as per spec, but as that accounts for half the halfpennies or more of this period, should not be something to worry about. That's a beauty. Quote
Michael-Roo Posted 9 minutes ago Author Posted 9 minutes ago (edited) Here's another relatively recent 1701 find I'm rather pleased with. As for Vs on the obverse, large zero reverse. Edited just now by Michael-Roo Quote
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