1874 H Farthing R in REG and G in D:G:

[The Bee]

Hi

Hope you don't mind some Farthing photos

I couldn't find anything similar to this - great to get your thoughts - another coin from an old album [I seem to recall seeing one of these as a kid in a coin book or magazine but can't place it]

This is an 1874 H Farthing . I spotted the R in REG immediately its much thicker than it should be. [contrast to R in BRITT]

The G is D:G: is also interesting it looks like someone got into difficulties and It the same spot for the G over G (I have a very poor example of one of these) [contrast to G in REG]

Great to get your thoughts - what do you think ? Have you got one of these in your collection ?

Very Best Regards

Richard

P.S. Hopefully these will be the last photos for today - great to get your expert views on this and on the 1865 posted earlier !

 

[Paddy]

Interesting! I have not seen that before.

The R looks almost as if someone has selectively flattened that section with a punch post mint? I can't quite see how it could come out of the press like that, but I may be wrong.

[The Bee]

Hi Paddy,

Many thanks for the message

It difficult to tell but looks about the same depth as the rest of the legend.

I wondered if it was an attempt to make a correction to the G and R that didn't work out !

I'll might see if I can get a photo of the Farthing at an angle  

Very Best Regards

Richard

 

[The Bee]

2 hours ago, Paddy said:

Interesting! I have not seen that before.

The R looks almost as if someone has selectively flattened that section with a punch post mint? I can't quite see how it could come out of the press like that, but I may be wrong.

Hi Paddy, Just to enquire - is there anything you would be particularly interested in re Farthings ?

 I have 1860 onwards (with the obvious gap) sometimes with more than one example and a duplicates tray and a further folder ! (so there are some varieties) And one tray with various Farthings from Charles II, William III, George's, William again etc through to Victoria (few nice coins but nothing "special")

Very Best Regards 

Richard

[Paddy]

Hi Richard - I will PM you.

 

[copper123]

Could be post mint damage - just saying...

[Martinminerva]

1 hour ago, copper123 said:

Could be post mint damage - just saying...

I think it is post mint damage, I'm afraid. With a bit of judicious photo editing (see below), I believe one can determine a suspiciously straight line running through the R and across Victoria's cheek, typical of a scuff. I have done it myself on occasions when metal detecting and scuffing a coin with my trowel (boo!). That would certainly account for the flattening of the letters.

 

Edited September 10, 2024 by Martinminerva

[The Bee]

Hi Martin,

Many thanks for looking at photo. I am certain it must be post mint damage on the R and the G. I had a closer look and angled the Farthing to highlight what might be going on a bit clearer and it now shows up much better. There is what I thought was a light scratch running from Victoria's mouth and if I follow it across, it goes through the bow in the ribbon (where it is clearer) and then aligns with downstroke of the R and then on the rim of the Farthing there is a slight dip 

Then there may be something just underneath the front of the wreath which could align with the G in D:G: less certain about that, but as the R is aligned with that damage I would expect something similar happened with the G

Many thanks again 

Best Regards

Richard

 

[The Bee]

Hi,

Many thanks again for help with the farthing and apologies for sharing the photos before thoroughly inspecting the coin surface !

I guess I hadn't expected post mint damage to align so closely with the existing lettering or that Bronze could be so easily flattened

I should have been more suspicious !

Like the 1893 penny below , where part of the 3 has been pushed to the left due to something heavy being dropped onto the surface