copper123 Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 3 hours ago, Paddy said: Don't get me started on the film industry messing with historical fact! I gave up believing anything they portrayed after Braveheart. "The madness of king george" is probably as good a film as you will find in the end you start feeling quite sorry for him 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 1 hour ago, copper123 said: "The madness of king george" is probably as good a film as you will find in the end you start feeling quite sorry for him yes - they once thought he suffered from porphyria, but the latest thinking is that he was a manic depressive (or do we have to say bipolar now?) Quote
oldcopper Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 18 hours ago, Paddy said: Don't get me started on the film industry messing with historical fact! I gave up believing anything they portrayed after Braveheart. Wasn't his love interest about 5 years old at the time?! In reality that is, but like Gibson's film The Patriot, Braveheart is disgustingly anti-English or anti-British, they're all caricatures. I saw a critique of the Patriot, which I've never watched nor intend to, referring to a scene in which American families were herded into a church by the British soldiers and it was set on fire. The Nazis might have done things like that, but the British never did anything remotely like that of course. Thanks Mel! Quote
Zo Arms Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 Poor man only mentioned that he had a nice book for sale. Was going to remind everyone about this year's Bring and Buy, in the village hall. But on second thoughts....... 2 Quote
copper123 Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 Oh yes I forgot James I had sir Walter Raleigh executed after a long spell in the tower of london , bet christopher columbus never got the same thing from the spanish monarchy Quote
oldcopper Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 Interesting times. This from Wikipedia (Raleigh was originally imprisoned in the Tower since 1603 for his part in a plot against James): In 1617, Raleigh was pardoned by the King and granted permission to conduct a second expedition to Venezuela in search of El Dorado. During the expedition, a detachment of Raleigh's men under the command of his long-time friend Lawrence Kemys attacked the Spanish outpost of Santo Tomé de Guayana on the Orinoco river, in violation of peace treaties with Spain and against Raleigh's orders. A condition of Raleigh's pardon was avoidance of any hostility against Spanish colonies or shipping. In the initial attack on the settlement, Raleigh's son, Walter, was fatally shot. Kemys informed Raleigh of his son's death and begged for forgiveness, but did not receive it, and at once committed suicide. On Raleigh's return to England, an outraged Count Gondomar, the Spanish ambassador, demanded that Raleigh's death sentence be reinstated by King James, who had little choice but to do so. Raleigh was brought to London from Plymouth by Sir Lewis Stukley, where he passed up numerous opportunities to make an effective escape.[55][56] It goes on to say that after his execution, his embalmed head was presented to his wife - perhaps so she could bury it? 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 5 hours ago, Zo Arms said: Poor man only mentioned that he had a nice book for sale. Was going to remind everyone about this year's Bring and Buy, in the village hall. But on second thoughts....... But, of course, being England, only 'if wet'. 1 Quote
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