Possible error.

[Majorp]

I found this 1849 godless florin last week . Would this be a error.  The reverse is struck off centre and the left side of reverse where coin has not been struck to the edge of the coin it's slightly thicker . Any thoughts please. 

[copper123]

Not nice to say, but it could be a china forgery artificially aged

[Rob]

Is the colour right? It looks very washed out. It could of course have been harshly cleaned. Weight correct?

As for the original question. There is a bit of lateral play in the press. If the milling is good, then I would say not an error.

[Peckris 2]

17 hours ago, Rob said:

As for the original question. There is a bit of lateral play in the press. If the milling is good, then I would say not an error.

Possibly you meant it IS an error? But not a fake.

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

If memory is not playing tricks on me, I believe that that sort of mis-strike was called a "railroad rim". At least in the USA.

Now, the TPGs define it as "struck out of collar", which is a more accurate description anyway. If it is struck sufficiently out of the collar to have part of the design missing, then it would be classified as an "off center strike".

Edited February 27, 2024 by Bronze & Copper Collector

[Rob]

8 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

Possibly you meant it IS an error? But not a fake.

No, there has to be some play in the press as things are never going to be a perfect fit. The point I was making was if the edge milling is as it should be, then it is not an error. If the milling is missing, then you have an out of collar strike

6 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

If memory is not playing tricks on me, I believe that that sort of mis-strike was called a "railroad rim". At least in the USA.

Now, the TPGs define it as "struck out of collar", which is a more accurate description anyway. If it is struck sufficiently out of the collar to have part of the design missing, then it would be classified as an "off center strike".

See above

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

From Wikipedia

 

[SilverAge3]

https://www.error-ref.com/partial-collar/

This link may be of use, not sure. Is the edge odd in any way?

Edited February 28, 2024 by SilverAge3