NGC Again

[ozjohn]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Great-Britain-Florin-2-SHILLINGS-KM-817-NGC-MS-62/322982118893?hash=item4b333c05ed:g:AuYAAOSwlPFeMxHD

I don't think this one qualifies for a MS grading. There is a serious metal flaw on the obverse, signs of wear that cannot be explained by a weak strike, and many bag marks on both obverse and reverse. Below is scan of my example is included a coin I have had for many years and brought it at MR Roberts, Wynyard,  I think it was less than $Au 50. IMO I think this  coinis somewhere in the MS range.

Edited February 9, 2020 by ozjohn
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[Sword]

MS or not, it is not something I want to have in my collection. 

[Paulus]

Awful

[JLS]

One ugly coin. This really should be MS60 - an EF coin which technically might have looked like this when it left the mint, but nevertheless has severe defects. 

The problem with NGC is that they'll take the better than average lustre and OK strike and make that bump it up a few points, despite the metal flaws, "contact marks" *cough* wear, and heavy bagmarking. 

Ozjohn's coin looks like a MS62 or MS63 piece; the obverse rim nicks will stop it getting a higher grade if the weakish strike doesn't. A much more attractive piece though. 

[JLS]

A much worse offender among the seller's offerings is this: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-ERROR-NGC-CERTIFIED-1817-37-NETHERLAND-CENT-STRUCK-OFF-CENTRE-RARE-IN-UNC/222885567656

Hard to believe it's worth even £100 with the hole. Sort of thing I'd feel lucky to pick up for £20 knowing that I'd probably double my money if I decided to sell it down the line. 

[VickySilver]

AU58ish in my opinion, not altogether unattractive but not just quite "there". Interesting how the reverse fared better which seems so often the case.

I don't think it particularly well struck but there does appear abrasions across the devices (George) on obverse.