secret santa Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 I tried to include a website link in a post and got 403 error - anyone know what this means ? (it was my own website) Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) http://www.headsntails14.wordpress.com/ testing... Worked for me! Edited February 17, 2019 by Peckris 2 Quote
secret santa Posted February 18, 2019 Author Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) it was this: https://fakecoins.wordpress.com/ And now it works ????????? The above website is a prototype and I'd welcome comments on structure, format etc including whether to structure it by Monarch or Denomination or Something else. Edited February 18, 2019 by secret santa Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 http://www.thefakepoundcoindatabase.co.uk/ I think nearly all the decimal ones are covered on this website. Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, secret santa said: it was this: https://fakecoins.wordpress.com/ And now it works ????????? The above website is a prototype and I'd welcome comments on structure, format etc including whether to structure it by Monarch or Denomination or Something else. I think it looks good. Couple of things: 1. it's "coarse" not "course". 2. I'm a bit confused about the difference between the first screen and the Home screen - the former is a nice welcome with a pleasant scenic picture, but the latter is exactly the same but without the picture! Are you planning to develop the Home screen so there's more on it? I think the Denomination approach works best, as it's usually particular denominations, not monarchs, that come in for fakery. E.g., George III is known most for evasion halfpennies (and contemporary forgeries), and also Northumberland shillings. The halfpennies make an interesting historical study for the reasons that underlay their forging; the shillings however are modern and intended to fool collectors. Otherwise the halfpenny and shilling fakes have absolutely nothing to do with each other. So IMO the denomination approach is not only better but more logical. 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: I think it looks good. Couple of things: 1. it's "coarse" not "course". 2. I'm a bit confused about the difference between the first screen and the Home screen - the former is a nice welcome with a pleasant scenic picture, but the latter is exactly the same but without the picture! Are you planning to develop the Home screen so there's more on it? I think the Denomination approach works best, as it's usually particular denominations, not monarchs, that come in for fakery. E.g., George III is known most for evasion halfpennies (and contemporary forgeries), and also Northumberland shillings. The halfpennies make an interesting historical study for the reasons that underlay their forging; the shillings however are modern and intended to fool collectors. Otherwise the halfpenny and shilling fakes have absolutely nothing to do with each other. So IMO the denomination approach is not only better but more logical. I agree. Quite apart from it being specific denominations that are faked, as opposed to monarchs, I'd also say that anybody referencing the website will immediately hone in on the denomination, and then chronologically to the date/type. 1 Quote
secret santa Posted February 18, 2019 Author Posted February 18, 2019 Thank you for pointing out the spelling error although, of coarse, I should have spotted that myself. The issue of 2 Home pages is foxing me at the moment, I can't seem to get rid of the scenic picture page, although that may just be par for the coarse. 2 Quote
1949threepence Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) They've also started faking the 1919KN penny. Actually, at first glance, it's not a bad copy and might have some people fooled, were it not for the fact that you just don't get them BU with full lustre. On close examination it's very obviously a fake. link to it Edited February 19, 2019 by 1949threepence Quote
secret santa Posted February 19, 2019 Author Posted February 19, 2019 Someone's putting a lot of effort into all this. Quote
Peter Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 I hope you can concentrate on predecimal. Stewie and Richard (Coinery & Tomgoodheart) for hammered and SUEK for milled.. Plus a lot of us can help fill gaps. Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 On 19 February 2019 at 3:53 PM, 1949threepence said: They've also started faking the 1919KN penny. Actually, at first glance, it's not a bad copy and might have some people fooled, were it not for the fact that you just don't get them BU with full lustre. On close examination it's very obviously a fake. link to it What's worrying is that they've combined an obviously fake portrait (the eye is wrong and the beard is just too detailed and perfect) with the 'not fully struck up' Britannia that is par for the course on genuine examples. Ok, it's only £12:50 but someone is going to buy a few and sell them to unsuspecting punters for hundreds. 2 Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: What's worrying is that they've combined an obviously fake portrait (the eye is wrong and the beard is just too detailed and perfect) with the 'not fully struck up' Britannia that is par for the course on genuine examples. Ok, it's only £12:50 but someone is going to buy a few and sell them to unsuspecting punters for hundreds. I thought the "weak strike" on the reverse was a good effort too. Edited February 21, 2019 by mrbadexample 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 9:39 PM, Peckris 2 said: What's worrying is that they've combined an obviously fake portrait (the eye is wrong and the beard is just too detailed and perfect) with the 'not fully struck up' Britannia that is par for the course on genuine examples. Ok, it's only £12:50 but someone is going to buy a few and sell them to unsuspecting punters for hundreds. What's even more worrying - and forgive my naivety here - is that they are now producing pennies artificially worn. For example, the 1933 fake shown in the link, looks as though it has been in circulation for 35 years or so. I didn't even realise fake circulation wear was possible. link to "worn" 1933 fake penny Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: What's even more worrying - and forgive my naivety here - is that they are now producing pennies artificially worn. For example, the 1933 fake shown in the link, looks as though it has been in circulation for 35 years or so. I didn't even realise fake circulation wear was possible. link to "worn" 1933 fake penny Obviously stuck in their pocket with other money for several months... 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Just come across this "reproduction" 1861 penny. Curious to know what variety the copiers had modelled it on, I took a closer look, and it appear to be a copy of a F29. Predictable enough. Anyway, another possible addition to your fakes site, Richard. link to 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 9 hours ago, 1949threepence said: Just come across this "reproduction" 1861 penny. Curious to know what variety the copiers had modelled it on, I took a closer look, and it appear to be a copy of a F29. Predictable enough. Anyway, another possible addition to your fakes site, Richard. link to Dangerously accurate. Who on earth made these? Quote
1949threepence Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peckris 2 said: Dangerously accurate. Who on earth made these? Don't know who's making them, but they're getting better at it. However, there are still flaws. I can see at a glance it's a fake, especially the obverse, which just doesn't look right. Also there's no LCW under the shield, which there would be on Obverse 6, reverse D with a wide date (F29). The F33 reverse G has no LCW but a narrower date. Edited May 18, 2019 by 1949threepence Quote
secret santa Posted May 18, 2019 Author Posted May 18, 2019 I think it might actually be their attempt at a round top lighthouse (rev f) ? Quote
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