mrbadexample Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, Bernie said: Well Done ! Like Hens Teeth ! About time I got lucky with a punt - I couldn't ID it from the seller's group photo so pretty pleased. Quote
mrbadexample Posted January 29, 2021 Author Posted January 29, 2021 I thought I'd see how my F264 compares to others out there. Well, I would if I could find any. "Worthpoint", whatever that is, has a picture of a green one that was on ebay but no further info without signing up. None at LCA or DNW that I can see. Can anyone point me to past auctions for this one please? I'm probably just not looking in the right place. Cheers. Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Here is the example in my collection. I thought I had another, but I can't locate it now. Possibly sold on ebay, but I can't access my records in turbolister... Quote
Bernie Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 6:51 PM, mrbadexample said: I thought I'd see how my F264 compares to others out there. Well, I would if I could find any. "Worthpoint", whatever that is, has a picture of a green one that was on ebay but no further info without signing up. None at LCA or DNW that I can see. Can anyone point me to past auctions for this one please? I'm probably just not looking in the right place. Cheers. 2 Quote
Iannich48 Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 I have searched as well, and i cannot find anything either. 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 I bought half a dozen 1860/61 halfpennies to alleviate lockdown boredom. I couldn't see much detail, only that the 1860 was toothed. 2+B, F261? Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 This was the best of the 1861s, perhaps the only one that will ultimately be identifiable. I think this is obverse 5 with the die flaw on the forehead? If so it's the first obverse 5 I've had in hand so nice to see what the flaw looks like. Reverse E so F274? Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 I thought I might have been lucky and bagged a 6/8 (F274A) but although it's the right die pairing it doesn't match other examples I've found. Dracott lists a 6/6 (but no 6/8) but I think if this was a match he'd have mentioned the 8 too. Can I ask what others think please? Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: This was the best of the 1861s, perhaps the only one that will ultimately be identifiable. I think this is obverse 5 with the die flaw on the forehead? If so it's the first obverse 5 I've had in hand so nice to see what the flaw looks like. Reverse E so F274? I don't have my Obverse 5 to hand but from memory it looks right. Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: I don't have my Obverse 5 to hand but from memory it looks right. Thanks. It doesn't look quite right compared to the example on Richard's site but obviously it's a lot more worn. The other 4 1861s turned out to be all 7+G, F282 as far as I can tell so nothing exciting there. I didn't have one so the best will fill a gap, and I wanted one to send to the chap who sent me the F269 so he has one of the same date. For a quid each I'm not too distressed. 1 Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Peckris 2 said: I don't have my Obverse 5 to hand but from memory it looks right. Obverse 5 1 Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, mrbadexample said: I bought half a dozen 1860/61 halfpennies to alleviate lockdown boredom. I couldn't see much detail, only that the 1860 was toothed. 2+B, F261? Can't tell for sure, but I am leaning towards an Obverse 4 or 6..... Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, mrbadexample said: I thought I might have been lucky and bagged a 6/8 (F274A) but although it's the right die pairing it doesn't match other examples I've found. Dracott lists a 6/6 (but no 6/8) but I think if this was a match he'd have mentioned the 8 too. Can I ask what others think please? If I did this correctly, it should link to different variants of the F-274a that I posted a while back... http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/3664-coin-aquisition-of-the-week/?page=30&tab=comments#comment-39212 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 17, 2021 Author Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said: Can't tell for sure, but I am leaning towards an Obverse 4 or 6..... I think there are only 2 leaves in the third group. Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 17, 2021 Author Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said: If I did this correctly, it should link to different variants of the F-274a that I posted a while back... http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/3664-coin-aquisition-of-the-week/?page=30&tab=comments#comment-39212 Brilliant thank you. It appears to match very closely with this one, with the exception of the vertical line. Perhaps an earlier die state? Do you consider these to be F274 variants or F274A variants? Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, mrbadexample said: Brilliant thank you. It appears to match very closely with this one, with the exception of the vertical line. Perhaps an earlier die state? Do you consider these to be F274 variants or F274A variants? My personal assessment and attributions are to categorize them as F-274a variants. Inasmuch as the F-274a is considered to actually be a 6 over higher 6, unlike the F-282a which is clearly a 6 over 8, I consider all the various incarnations of 6 over 6 to be F-274a variants. Again, these are only my thoughts and how I have classified them in my collection.. 1 Quote
Bernie Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 11:26 PM, Bronze & Copper Collector said: Can't tell for sure, but I am leaning towards an Obverse 4 or 6..... Not a 4 Gary, so that leaves 6 ? Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bernie said: Not a 4 Gary, so that leaves 6 ? From the image, I don't think it is a 2, 3, 5, or 7.... (1 is automatically eliminated inasmuch as the coin does not have a beaded border..) Leaving either 4 or 6. If you don't think it's a 4, then it is most likely an obverse 6. Again, nothing substitutes for direct examination.... Quote
Bernie Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 8:20 PM, Bronze & Copper Collector said: From the image, I don't think it is a 2, 3, 5, or 7.... (1 is automatically eliminated inasmuch as the coin does not have a beaded border..) Leaving either 4 or 6. If you don't think it's a 4, then it is most likely an obverse 6. Again, nothing substitutes for direct examination.... Colons after FD too wide for Obverse 4, I believe. Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 24, 2021 Author Posted February 24, 2021 Can either of you tell me what eliminates obverse 2 please? Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, mrbadexample said: Can either of you tell me what eliminates obverse 2 please? MEA CULPA, NOTHING ELIMINATES IT.. Upon further close examination, I'll recant my opinion and state that I now consider and believe YOUR original assessment of it being an obverse 2 to be the correct one. It only serves to reinforce my belief that NOTHING substitutes for DIRECT EXAMINATION OF THE COIN IN HAND!!! Edited February 24, 2021 by Bronze & Copper Collector Quote
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