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The only one sitting pretty is Putin. Lots of resources and a population that is under control. They don't have mass immigration isues to consider. Corrupt for sure, but the resources/population balance is better there than in any other major country.

The one to watch is China which could see a lot of strain on a society that has been offered a significant uptick in living standards built on the export trade. They won't be happy to see further unemployment if Trump sees through a return of US manufacturing.

When it all pans out, earth will be fine, if a little less populated.

 

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The result is what it is. But we need to understand the result in the broader context. I think voters demonstrated that they are fed up with the USA being run on behalf of special and corporate interests, that they feel they are being left behind by the global economy, and they are sick of identity politics, illegal immigration and political correctness.

And this is not just a US issue. Similar concerns fueled Brexit and is fueling populist movements across the developed world. Will anything change? Probably not.The establishment has a way of grinding the radicals down.

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39 minutes ago, jaggy said:

The result is what it is. But we need to understand the result in the broader context. I think voters demonstrated that they are fed up with the USA being run on behalf of special and corporate interests, that they feel they are being left behind by the global economy, and they are sick of identity politics, illegal immigration and political correctness.

And this is not just a US issue. Similar concerns fueled Brexit and is fueling populist movements across the developed world. Will anything change? Probably not.The establishment has a way of grinding the radicals down.

The only way people can go against the establishment is to put their money where their mouth is. If you want a healthy local economy (which is what most of the protest votes are about), you have to support it. That means not having strawberries with your Christmas dinner, buying goods produced within your country and not necessarily demanding the cheapest option, i.e. using the five pound shop and not Poundland.

Isolationist and protectionist as it is, there aren't enough jobs to go around because of production efficiencies and labour costs, but that is the goal that people want even if they can't articulate it. A truly healthy local economy (and people do mostly live in a local vacuum) has a workforce that is close to full employment. Money generated within communities that can be used by the same people so that nobody feels left behind. In that environment it also defuses the immigration issues because virtually everyone is doing passably well. It is this sense of community that globalisation has largely killed off.

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1 hour ago, copper123 said:

A trump in america leaves a bad smell in europe LOL

But maybe more fragrance in the UK ;)

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