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DaveG38, Perhaps. However the application to leave under A 50 was applied for by the UK and accepted by the EU who are the only people who can rescind it. As you can see the EU is using this to put pressure on UK MPs who do not want to leave without a deal. As it stands the UK has painted its self into a corner and a no deal Brexit is the likely outcome. Perhaps that's May's strategy! Personally I do not think this is a bad thing for the UK. I have to say If the UK in the top ten of world economies cannot thrive on its own there must be something seriously wrong with the country. Prior to signing up to Treaty of Rome the UK managed to operate as a successful country. No shortages of food or medications or other scares put about. The ports and customs worked ok as well (subject to industrial action). It has to be said in its negotiations for Brexit the UK has not acted like a country of this stature.

Pekris2 you are at it again marking other people's work like a frustrated old school master. This a forum where people express ideas and you are overstepping the line by annotating their posts with your ramblings. IF YOU HAVE THING TO SAY WRITE YOUR OWN POST. On the subject. A delay in Brexit seems to have been arranged . It seems a month subject to an acceptance of May's deal being passed. Assuming the parliament is allowed by the speaker to debate and vote on the motion it still needs a massive change of heart by MPs. A no deal is looking increasing likely.

CGS?

When you see some of the grading decisions from TPGs it's probably a combination of all three.

Cigarette machines took a florin for a packet of ten. Always felt good using an Australian florin to buy a packet of cigarettes. Trouble was Australian florins were sterling up to 1946 and 50% silver until decimalisation in 1966 so we were fooling our selves.I gave up smoking in 1973 when I started uni. A packet of Camel or Chesterfield cost 85 centts at the time.

As it happens 3 pre 1920 florins contain 1 oz. of silver which was worth about 15/- at the time. For post 1920 3 florins are worth about 7s 6d. Giving a premium of 1s 6d. At the time I remember dealers offering twice face value for scrap pre 1920 silver coins. I cannot remember any premium offered for post 1920 silver coins but it probably encouraged people to hoard them. Neither did it clean up the pre 1920 silver coins given the amount that still seem to be around.

100% correct.

A double florin? First issued in 1887.

I find this annotating and vetting of posts insulting. It is like you are not allowed to have an opinion. Rob's opinion is just as valid as anyone else. If you disagree at least have the courtesy to write your verson rather than correct someone else's like a schoolmaster. I used Rob's post as an example as it was the most recent case but comments I have posted have been annotated in a similar way in the past.

Some time ago a NGC video was posted that clearly shows NGC graders handling coins with bare hands leaving the subject coin exposed to finger prints, fallout from sneezing etc. and I do not remember any degreasing proceedure with acetone to remove tis contamination before placing the coin in a capsule. Perhaps this could be the source of contamination that can cause the coin to deteriorate after slabbing.

Very well put Rob. Reading between the lines and given that May's deal was un acceptable the UK ha only two real options if Article 50 cannot be rescinded. These are leave with no deal or go back to the EU and rejoin on much worse terms than exist now. As you say any extension is really living on borrowed time. and hands the EU the opportunity to tighten the screws even further. As an outside chance a general election that delivers to the government an overwhelming result to leave may shift the EU but somehow I doubt it.

May's deal splits the UK into two parts. N Ireland staying in the EU while the rest sort of leaves. This was always going to be unacceptable. No deal may have some short term economic risk but the UK can trade under WTO rules which Australia does with the EU. The advantage of a no deal is the UK is free to go it's own way. Delay all this does is kick the can down the road. Maybe a general election could resolve the N Ireland issue but I doubt it the opposition to it crossed party lines. A second referendum ? Who knows what the words will be and no guarantee that it will resolve anything.

Rudd. I was stupid enough to vote for him. Along with Gillard one of the worst PMs we have ever had both of them had no commitment to their cause it was all about them. Australia hasn't had a decent Labor PM since the Hawke /Keating era. Last I heard of Rudd self styled foreign affairs expert was he was sulking in New York because the government refused to nominate him as our UN ambassador. I wouldn't take anything in the Guardian seriously. their badly dressed journalists (Vinnies charity shop seems to be their clothing store of choice) infest the current affairs programs of the ABC spreading their left wing views without challenge as they all sing from the same song sheet as well as spreading biased journalism in their on line paper

Not sure how the grading can only be guaranteed for 10 years. I can understand extra toning if the materials chosen for the capsule contain sulfur or the capsule is not airtight allowing oxygen and atmospheric pollution to reach the coin's surface. I think most people would expect these issues to be addressed by NGS etc. However the guaranteeing of the grade for 10 years implies extra wear can occur in this time is this to be called capsule friction? Sounds like a ploy by TPGs spruiking for extra business.

Well! well! it was only a matter of time..https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/10/eu-prepares-demand-multi-billion-pound-increase-divorce-payment/ The EU thinks it has you over a barrel which it probably has unless your feeble pollies suddenly get an attack of intestinal fortitude. and stand up to these bas###ds. As far as I can see the only way the UK can act under threats such as this is the no deal option. How could you live with yourselves giving in to blackmail?

I remember someone collected cased Maundy sets and saw this one https://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/items/1907-silver-maundy-set-edward-vii-s3985-original-presentation-case and thought it may be of interest. I have no connection with Sterling and Currency other than purchasing coins from them in the past.

Irrelevant. The British people voted to leave the EU not Steve Bannon etc. however much that seems to offend you that is a fact and that's all there is to it. Also it does not alter the fact that the UK is heading for a no deal Brexit unless the EU grants an extension under who knows conditions before the 29 March 2019.

Be afraid Very afraid. Unless TM wants to play political suicide a no deal Brexit will happen in 18 days depending on which side of the globe you live. . Something not understood by most people in the UK leaving the EU without a deal is set in concrete. Only a vote by parliament can force the government to ask for an extension and who knows what conditions would be imposed by the EU for this to happen. As TM said Brexit means Brexit pity her words do not live up to her rhetoric.

If you leave a piece of silver in a draw for a hundred years it will be black. I think that's your answer. Just hope who ever cleaned the coin in the past did a good job.

A democracy is government by the people by the people etc. something that has been forgotten about in this debate. A second referendum will be a disaster as it shows the government has no intention of complying with the first referendum and most people will lose any confidence they ever had in their leaders. My guess is a second referendum will produce a similar result firstly they are fed up with being ignored by the government and its incompetence showen in negotiating the terms for Brexit , the BBC, B of E, and various vested interests, and secondly completely p###ed off with being pushed around by the EU with the compliance of the government.

Absolutely right. Earlier one of the posts on this matter asserted that the government's responsibility was to act in a way that that it thinks is in the best interest of the country. Even quoting Churchill, which was amusing considering the left leanings of the author. The difference here is the government specifically asked the people for their vote on the matter as they were split.. Having received a vote to leave from the people many polies refuse to accept the decision of the people which is damaging to the political processes of the country and likely to cause far more long term damage to the country than any no deal Brexit.

Yesterday while looking thru Ebay listings I tried pinging several listings of repro coins. Ebay did not seem to accept my Report Listing requests. Perhaps I have been judged as a vexatious reporter.

Perhaps you could ask Trump to build a wall between Ireland and the north. More seriously someone will have to check trade and levy duties between the two Irelands as well as checking for illegals, criminals etc. I can't see how this will work with out some form of border control perhaps on the Norway Sweden model . Last year I was on a bus tour travelling on the Oresund Bridge between Denmark and Sweden both in the Schengen zone we were still checked at the Swedish border Having said that I have driven all over North Europe without been stopped at all.

Good point. Unless there is a 12th hour change by the EU it looks like Brexit will happen. The only thing the commons could do is to force the government to approach Brussels for an extension. Politically very risky. Something party defectors will find out at the next election. At present it seems the leaving date is set in concrete and will happen come what may. No pun intended.

Had a look at the coin you mention on London Coins auction site. I think the B M effigy coupled wIth the traditional George & Dragon would have carried the day.