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Hi Jerry. That's why I put the ? after F32.....as I wasn't too sure either. I saw it whilst on holiday and wasn't able to blow up the picture properly to check type, picture is a little blurry anyway. Thought someone must have thought F32 because of final price, and I can now see that date numeral positions look right, here's date from my own example. Was wondering if a member could now confirm as it would be one of the best F32 examples.

.....anyone bid on this one, F32? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304157856034

Ha, yes Indian coins were something else. The following list if coins were still all being produced in the time of George VI. Amazing to think that twelfth Annas were being minted, and there are 16 Annas to a Rupee.........the Rupee itself now worth slightly less than the UK new penny. 1/12 Anna 1/2 Pice = 1/8 Anna 1 Pice = 1/4 Anna 1/4 Anna 1/2 Anna 1 Anna 2 Annas = 1/8 Rupee 1/4 Rupee 1/2 Rupee 1 Rupee

Several 'colonial' countries used 'cents', with roughly same size as some lsd coins. e.g. British Honduras and Canada (also dollar). Mauritius and Seychelles had rather attractive 1 rupee and half rupee, same as India. One of the more interesting pieces is the half shilling / 50 cents from East Africa which shows both denominations in the legend, and has an attractive image of a lion at the foot of Kilimanjaro. I have a collection of last ever minted George VI pieces from around the world; I have every denomination apart from the 1941 Hong Kong 1 cent. Happy to share that information if helps.

Of course Richard, please feel free.

........and here is the extra (11th) leaf in case weren't sure where to find it!!

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Sadly ‘yes’ Mike, I have definitely looked into 1797 ships. I have owned and logged 40 different varieties of 1797 ships paired with 10-leaf obverses, and a further 7 different ships paired with the 11-leaf obverse. I have taken digital microscope pictures, all to exactly the same scale (65x), for comparison. I have now sold all but 4 examples retained in my collection. Apart from the number of gun port differences there are also many distinct differences in positioning of flag, bowsprit, platform, sails and rigging, also size of ships, roughness of sea and angle of ship in the sea. I attach 8 examples to demonstrate some of the differences I found, reduced in size to meet the site 500Kb limit. Hope this helps!

I’m just sorting through a few Victorian pennies, with a view to thinning down the collection, and thought the following pictures may be of interest to variety collectors. They show 6 slightly different 1853 3/3 repairs. Top left is the exact same coin pictured on MG’s website, which he calls Date Style C (?):- 1853 Copper penny 3 date styles (michael-coins.co.uk) Bottom left is the closer DEF colon (Peck 1503). I have owned 12 examples of this type over the years, and noted that they always show exact the same obverse / reverse legend features…… indicating that the closer DEF colon is only found on a single die pairing. The fact that I have 6 different 3/3’s, all with Date Style C (Plain 5), I think demonstrates the difficulty that would be encountered if one ever tried to re-catalogue all the minor sub-varieties that are found in this copper series.

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Well spotted Pete, the lighhouse is thinner, especially the top section..........and the sea does not cross the linear circle!

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The fact that the 5 is an exact match (apart from blocking) + the distances to both the sea and linear circle (which place the dot in the correct position) make me think that it is an example of the cannon ball. If the tooth on the better example had been flattened through wear then the horizontal red line would also meet at the same point as the lower grade (worn) piece. Here's another shot of the cannon ball on the worn piece, which I think is a little more convincing. The overhead shot with the digital microscope, used to get the measurements, has light reflection and makes the actual dot less convincing. I think this is a cannon ball penny, but guess we will see whether Richard agrees!

Agree, great find. Is there something going on at lhs of numeral 6 on the 1863?

Hi Jerry, I've had time to knock this out this evening with the superimposed images you requested.........good idea! Actual pictures of both 1875 'Cannon Ball' coins are at the left hand and right hand ends, both shot at the exact same 100x magnification, and identically positioned. The unusual (italic looking) 5 picture has then been over-laid onto the normal 5 picture. Looking from right to left, it has then been gradually removed, 10% at a time, using the software transparency feature.................to slowly reveal the normal 5 underneath. As you suspected, it is pretty convincing that the unusual looking 5 is NOT an altered die......... even though at first sight it would seem to be so. I guess it is just a late strike of this variety, with part of the top of the 5 now blocked out. Hope the pictures are clear enough; I had to resize to stick within the 500K limit!!

No problem Jerry, but will be a few days before I get a chance now.

....and here's the numeral 5 on the better cannon ball for comparison to the repaired example

Re. your 'must be a single die variety' comment Jerry, I have just taken digital microscope shots of this low grade Cannon Ball (with repaired 5) and compared to my higher grade example (no repaired 5) to attempt to pinpoint the dot in relation to a) the sea level and b) the linear circle. Whilst the border teeth are flatter on the more worn (repaired 5) example it does seem to me that the cannon ball fits in well with the expected location.....and must be bona fide.

I think it looks like top part of another 'higher' 5 Blake, but then there is no other part of an underneath 5 protruding elsewhere which I guess I would have expected to see e.g. like this 1862/2

Apologies for my earlier typo, I should of course have said reverse k (not L).

Does your Cannon Ball have the repaired 5 Blake.... same question for Jerry x 3?

Links to the two LCA pieces Richard:- Penny 1875 as Freeman 80 dies 8+H but with a raised dot below the fi : A154 L2439 : Auction Prices (londoncoins.co.uk) Penny 1875 as Freeman 80 dies 8+H but with a raised dot below the fi : A152 L2425 : Auction Prices (londoncoins.co.uk)

Well spotted yourself Pete. I too saw that the 5 looked a bit strange, made me question whether the cannon ball was present because didn't think other cannon ball examples had anything going on with the 5. Anyway, here is a close-up to put you out of your misery.

Yes, I saw you had 3 out of only 7 documented specimens to date, well done...... must drive you dotty!