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Just A Thought For Newcomers!
Paddy replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
That should do you fine. Unlike Pennies, I don't think there are that many single denomination collectors for shillings. By the way, I would extend your range just a little, to the start of the milled shillings in 1662 (barring the very scarce Cromwell issues in the 1650s). Quite a few of the 17th century shillings are fairly reasonably priced and this gives you the opportunity to add a few more monarchs to the run. Shillings from 1696 and 1697 are fairly plentiful, as are some of the Charles II dates in the 1660s to 1680s. -
Just A Thought For Newcomers!
Paddy replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I don't know of a book just on shillings - maybe others do? A good starting point would be the usual "Coins of England & the United Kingdom" which comes out every year, but you only need to update occasionally. This is equivalent to the US Red Book. If you want to get more specialised "English Silver Coinage" by Maurice Bull is probably best, but only really necessary if you are going into all the varieties. -
That explains why I am not seeing any in circulation! I no longer do sets or proofs, so it looks like 2024 will remain a blank year for me.
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Welcome to the forum. I am no expert on the Gun Money, but it would seem likely that there are many die faults and die fill variations around as they were struck largely on campaign. Even the regal coinage from the 1690s has a huge number of variations.
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Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Paddy replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
One of the oldest axioms for life: "Don't eat yellow snow"! -
Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Paddy replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I messaged them and they have replied accepting their mistake. They have asked me what the price should be. I haven' bought one of these for years - any suggestions? -
Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Paddy replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
... and of course toothed border, not beaded (or bearded) both sides. Has anyone told the vendor? -
The only date deemed scarce is 1984 - the last year they made them and mostly issued in sets. Having said that, I don't think there are many people collecting them, so may be difficult finding a buyer even for a 1984. They are still exchangeable at banks and the post office, although they hate them. Even though they weigh precisely half the 1p and so can be counted on the scales, for some reason they insist on counting them by hand!
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Be careful you check with the right city mint. Paris mint 1786 is very scarce and valuable. Orleans is much more common.
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Interesting. Here is my 1906, which I have no reason to doubt, and there seems to be a slight offset:
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I am not sure. I have just been looking at all my Ed VII halfcrowns, and all bar 1910 have the orb very slightly offset to the right. I am more concerned by the irregularity of the "SOI QUI", but that could be PMD or poor focus.
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I think this is one too. This one in Hong Kong and taken in 1986. The building is the Officer's mess of the Queens Gurkha Engineers - I suspect long since demolished by the new Chinese regime.
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Welcome @Mark Acton-Smith to the forum. The 1971 two pence is one of the commonest coins ever produced. Nearly 1.5 billion were made as part of the decimalization process, so despite the rumour mill on Ebay and some social media sites, it is worth just the 2p face value. The only proviso is that the scrap value of copper is quite high, so in bulk they may be worth more in metal content, but you have to find a scrap metal merchant interested in processing them. Also, it may still be illegal! Sorry if that is a disappointment!
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There are advantages to having good old-fashioned reference books!
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The R beneath the wreath makes it Orleans mint. The creature beneath the bust is described as a "Greyhound running left" though it looks far more like a dragon to me! Indicates Mathieu-Pierre Combret as the moneyer, 1780 to 1788.
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Paddy replied to Paddy's topic in Forum technical help and support
For those that had not spotted it before (like me), there is now an option to contribute to the running of this forum. On the main forum page, down the right hand side, if you click on the amount raised so far, underneath "Current Donation Goals", you can make a donation. All you require is a Paypal account - and funds of course! -
Hammered coins, coming to the end....of the first box....
Paddy replied to Citizen H's topic in British Hammered
Not my area, as you know by now, but the ISTO must be Bristol mint? Not listed as substantially scarcer than any others. From the Spink book, I think that means it must be one of the Class 2 or 3 variations. -
In case you come across anymore of these, the date is in Roman Numerals just behind Victoria's shoulder. You can just make out the lxxi at the end and can assume the rest. Worth knowing how to date them as some dates are much scarcer and more valuable than others.
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Shilling Grading / value
Paddy replied to Peter bliss's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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Well done on your sorting! I hope you didn't give away the Crown Jewels to the charity shop! The Gothic Florins are a lovely design. Yours is pretty well worn, but you can still just make out the date as 1871. A nice souvenir.
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The portrait does look like Vespasian, but Titus and Domitian are very similar. The reverse is an Altar, and according to my books that makes Domitian more likely. With so much damage, it is difficult to be sure. Most likely minted in Rome but for use across the whole empire, including Britannia. The closest match I have spotted is S2676 which was minted with Domitian as Caesar under Vespasian and would therefore date 69 to 79 AD. (But I stand to be corrected!) Does appear to be silver. The mass devaluation of coinage and the use of progressively less and less silver had not started in the first century.
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I am seeing lots of 2025 £1 coins, so they are not scarce, and the 2023s are around too. Not seen a 2024 yet at all. A fellow collector was telling me the 2022 £1 is quite scarce and fetching £5+ on Ebay, but I have had several???
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Those books are interesting but only really scratch the surface. They are more for general interest than reference. For GB pre-decimal coins you really need "Coins of England and the United Kingdom", which comes out each year. (No need to get every year as most of the detail remains fairly static.) Here it is on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coins-England-United-Kingdom-2025/dp/1917269005/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BP3BH96G6F8E&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.n4edWGlfb0yBRNDiHCBke5TXqasrBgeyFMD1Mxlg1X5FyKMNS5_w0cPGFQTteufUMLUWKZQ7NLwDhuQMSDq7W3yvSt0Vdhzl0QEvg4PFWCnEE7LZYMHuEVoJFPhxn7PS9HyQwSy6F_D1wm6gvN3uLAtRISHccMe9iyK-1czDV-RR0j-8iokTk-Q6lfvgwfyEQbJh_tgEGJ57pCTeIEBxnpMKzvtXBQPNSFJcrPZj5ek.RLeA8d0awh9bFG9pAjuAGOTGTPi2U6cRY13R1oddGLw&dib_tag=se&keywords=spink+coins+of+england+2025&qid=1761917519&s=books&sprefix=coins+%2Cstripbooks%2C218&sr=1-1 For World coins, the main reference books are the Krause World Coins series, but these are telephone directory tomes, one for each century, and I am not sure if they are even still printed. Best is to use the online website https://en.numista.com/ unless you need to get very specialised.
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To add more - the 1900 Crown is quite common and not rare. On the edge you will see the words ANNO REGNI followed by Roman numerals - for 1900 these will be either LXIII or LXIV for the 63rd or 64th year of her reign. They are of equal scarcity but interesting. In that condition probably £40 to £50 in the current market. The Florin 1887 is the most common year for Jubilee head florins as it was the first year of this design and a great many were put aside. Condition is better but probably £20 to £25. The shilling 1897 is probably the nicest coin and the most collectable grade - the same value as the florin. All in my humble opinion - others may say different.