Coinery

I have sympathy with collectors being caught out by genuinely good copies but, in all honesty, if someone gets caught by these primitive pewter copies I personally feel they should be zipping up their bank accounts and finding out just a little bit about the basics first. If someone turned up at the stock exchange and chucked £50 on a wild card, knowing nothing about stocks and shares, we’d most definitely call him a fool!

I’ve had two lacquered coins in my life...both ‘cleaned’ up with ‘proper’ acetone, which has a negligible effect on tone or lustre, mostly no effect.

Tee hee, my latest penny, King John!

Very pleased to add this John 5C to the folder. The Douglas Bayern collection, whoever he happens to be? think I’ll add it to penny acquisition and latest acquisition too! I’m that pleased!

That should fly! He’s put some lovely coins on eBay recently. Can’t fathom the pricing sometimes, though? You’ll see some great coins from him for .99p bid, then something bordering melt for £250 starting bid? Strange! 😊 Good luck! 👍

Aw, looked like a half decent coin until I spotted the crack in the flan! 😩 https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hammered-King-John-Silver-Penny-/391980732159

Hi Dave, have you published these stats anywhere, or are they only from your personal record?

Good luck with the Wiltons! Will let you know re the John, I use the same user name, so you’ll probably know anyway.

Quite amazing! Hey, D, I’m going to leave that H2 Tealby alone for now, I’m going to give that pretty John a go instead!

If you look at the deformed right arm/leaf, and the flaw in the 8 oclock field, they are present on them all. If you search the forum using 'fake elizabeth milled' or try 'counterfeit elizabeth milled' you'll get plenty to read. Hope you didn't pay too much? Was it eBay?

Mine was 2.68g

What a shoddy batch of Edward pennies at London Coins, some even making single lots!

I’ll dig out some photos of one I’ve had, might even be the same one??

It’s a copy!

I often see devices incuse! Takes an age sometimes to see them normally, then you can flick between the two after that!

That’s a lovely coin, Dave, what a price! You could have 10 of those for the price of that recent CNG coin I mentioned in the Plantagenets thread.

If it’s a UK buyer, it’ll cost just a whisker under £500 delivered for this common variety! Things are definitely changing for the best Plantagenet material. I’ve only been an observer these past 2 years, but the top end pieces are definitely outperforming book. Equally, there are a lot of Lizzies that I wish I hadn’t sold a couple of years ago! Phenomenal rise in the better grades!

You must be saving yourself for the gold dance, Non?

Thanks, Peter, it’s certainly stacking up the votes. A recommendation is half the work done! 😊

Aw, bless, he’s put so much time into researching it too! I hope he hasn’t put a deposit on a holiday or car on the strength of it? 😬

I’ll take a look...many thanks, Gaz! 👍

I often wonder how sellers manage to keep a 100% track record when pulling stunts like that?

You guys have sold me all over again, I’m on it! 👍 PS and hey it’s absolutely 100% Stuart Stu Stupot Stupid or variants thereof!

Man i’ve just got to join a club and touch base with experienced detectorists! I bought an xterra a couple of years ago and really struggled with its operation/set up and eventually gave up and sold it! Time to rethink that me thinks!

I’m very much back-tracking and going 100% with your XS legend, Richard...good work, you have presented credible evidence! As you may have picked up in various threads, I have never bought or investigated coins that are earlier than John, with my previous major collecting interest being Elizabethan, until my more recent commitment to the Plantagenets. So the Tealby’s are clearly on my radar, even though I have kept myself satisfied with the Edwards, H3 and John, thus far! It’s great to have a lively hammered section on this forum!