Coinery

I'm sure he meant 'Battered ieval' coin!

Could be worth an email, John, I won't hold my breath though! Does anyone know/understand the technology involved in the production of such a coin, that might give a broad date to the manufacture, or a post ???? date at least? I presume these are mostly one-offs, or could I expect to find others of the same moulds out there?

By way of my excuse for not spotting it earlier I should perhaps add that, when looking at the coin in life size (you'd barely be able to fit the Martlet on the original at this scale), it looks significantly more convincing!

Warwick & Warwick 15th August 2012, Sale 700, Lot 490 (£200 + juice)! I never even looked at this coin properly until today, when I was just about to make it available for sale. I even got so far as to catalogue it BCW MR-4Gi:b1, before putting it on the scales to add the final touch to the description...4.32g, and for a good grade. Bugger, I thought, not a good omen! So, gentlemen, here we have an electrotype MR-4Gi:b1 shilling of Elizabeth I...that'll be TWO fakes I managed to buy at the W&W sale last August though, fortunately, I managed to spot the other in a bulk lot before leaving the building! Feast your eyes...what's it worth? Has anyone seen enough sell in the past to give me a rough percentage of the value of the genuine article?

Declan's got the smallest one! Edit: if the foot of Declan's first 1 was parallel with the rim, his 8 would look EVEN smaller!

I never procured one outside of the major auctions or dealers that I wasn't happy to sell!

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland I know I for one would not be metal detecting there! Better ways to spend your time in Amsterdam? The good old 'visiting Anne Frank's House' used to work a treat with parents when I was a teenager! Last time I was there I did manage to catch the very impressive Rossetti Exhibition, AS WELL! Can't remember it, mind you!

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland I know I for one would not be metal detecting there!

I so wish all these little fragments of info could be bottled together in one place for future reference. I'll remember seeing this post a year from now, but won't have a chance in hell of finding it here in a thread on cleaning coins! Really useful pictures! I've been copying and pasting off anything interesting re G5 and G6 as it arrives on the forum, as there so many pearls that get lost otherwise, but where do you stop? Nice website btw You are SO bad Mr Dundee! Are you policing the entire 'net? I've got a big post coming up, could benefit the bigger 'proper' eBay sellers on here who are gutted with the fees(the one's I know about, at least)...you, Declan, Paulus, etc.! Please let me start the thread first!

Dang, this forum's good!

im going with the hearts, or no hearts coins......were nearly there and we havent seen it yet...man were good.........

I so wish all these little fragments of info could be bottled together in one place for future reference. I'll remember seeing this post a year from now, but won't have a chance in hell of finding it here in a thread on cleaning coins! Really useful pictures! I've been copying and pasting off anything interesting re G5 and G6 as it arrives on the forum, as there so many pearls that get lost otherwise, but where do you stop?

Rather than the usual DECUS ET TUTAMEN ANNO REGNI II, there was this ANNO REGNI ET TUTAMEN II DECUS coin that was sold... Description: Edward VII, crown, 1902, with error edge reading ANNO REGNI / ET TUTAMEN / II DECUS (E.S.C. - (cf. 361); cf. S. 3978), extremely fine and toned, apparently a previously unpublished variety http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/edward-vii,-crown,-1902,-with-error-edge-reading-1-c-66wkbzhvss

Other than the black variety, of course! I believe many a new generation has its foundation in the fruits of avalon!

Not dissimilar to myself, this evening! Cooked red lentils, boiled potatoes, shredded and blanched spring greens, fried onion and garlic, chives, and lots of cheddar, all mixed together and baked in a pastry pie! Served with corn on the cob, coleslaw, and a fresh salad! Got it cold tomorrow with pickled onions and cherry tomatoes (plus some homemade scrumpy, which is being delivered to the door at 12)! So how do you reconcile the living floaters with your vegetarian habits? Beer ought to cause a problem too given the use of finings. I take a rather more pragmatic view of food. Everything goes in and nature decides if it is useful or not. Fortunately, a great many bottled beers, ciders, and wine are given the big V! The cider was a great find, the owner of the farm we're staying on rents out the barn to a fellow farmer, who just happens to make his own 'private' cider from the local apples (I've been assured that all the apples are hand checked, and every maggot, mouse and fly, are carefully set free before pulping). It's fabulous stuff!

Not dissimilar to myself, this evening! Cooked red lentils, boiled potatoes, shredded and blanched spring greens, fried onion and garlic, chives, and lots of cheddar, all mixed together and baked in a pastry pie! Served with corn on the cob, coleslaw, and a fresh salad! Got it cold tomorrow with pickled onions and cherry tomatoes (plus some homemade scrumpy, which is being delivered to the door at 12)!

says he who has been banging up above average pennies like they're going out of fashion! Oops, having a senior moment there, Ski, getting you all confused with pies offerings! Sorry!

I'd need to set up a new eBay site and try and slip them past you lot, that's the trouble!

I've wondered what they were! Any ideas why there are so many around in great grade? I was starting to think the European hammered collectors were getting an easy ride.

says he who has been banging up above average pennies like they're going out of fashion!

Gone YAY Do we have another one? Here... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EF-Tudor-period-Hammered-Silver-Coin-Dated-1546-/380600909448?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14587%26meid%3D6380055177802333763%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D261187061833%26 Looks pewtery to me...I have seen so many of these coins going through at high-grade, where are they all coming from? I confess I've never even clicked on them before but, man, I wished I collected them (whatever they are), you'd have a very high grade hammered collection of something or other...for not a lot of doe, either! Perhaps they've ALL been counterfeit?

As a vegetarian, who many years ago used to love every morsel of the animal kingdom, I can understand your indulgence. However, Mrs Peter has certainly got it right, and I have a new found respect for her! Viva la goose and Mrs P. Spiritual evolution will bring about your own vegetarian state some day, Peter, so you'd best enjoy that liver while you can!

I've got a 1967 penny, wish that could take my son for a walk!

Thanks, Bill, though it was the point on toning that was of particular interest. As you pointed out, a black coin can achieve a high grade (which I'm happy with), leaving me to think a coin with the half-moon tone you get from a coin sitting on a coin, or a coin with an ugly, patchy tone or, reciprocally, a beautifully preserved coin with a golden tone, would have no bearing on the the numeric grade it received? Terrible use of grammar there, but I just couldn't think my way around it, so apologies!

I've 'politely' informed him too!