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Iv tested the coin and it comes up silver even under the flakey bits. not sure why a silver coin would do this. iv found many silver coins but not one that has flacked like this one, strange. It's possible it had planchet damage - air bubbles or similar - that caused the flaking.

Rules that apply to paper are different than metal. Admittedly fingering coins won't cause structural damage, but will leave a deposit of slightly acidic grease which would ruin lustre or good toning. Coins should either be handled only wearing cotton gloves, or by touching them by their edges, and avoid breathing right over them. I prefer to store in a cabinet but you have to take them out to see both sides. (One advantage of plastic tombs, or of plastic flips.) Albums are good for the inexperienced beginner but make sure they are for coins, i.e. non-PVC.

It trickled down all day yesterday, but didn't settle. (Southwest). Some Patrice Evra ice this morning though.

Erm and are you trying to tell us something ? And there's me thinking that life was something you went through will you wait for something better to happen. And on a completely different note, I've just had this lovely letter today from Works and Pension telling me I've got to work another nine month before I can get me pension. f~@#ers Think yourself lucky Gary. By the time I get there we'll all be working till 80! Apart from the disabled, who will be quietly gassed while the Daily Mail still trumpets us all as scroungers.

With all due respect, Alfred Bole was a collector. You, unfortunately, fall into the same category as 99.9% of us on here, ie you have a collection that includes some. A collector at Boles level will stop at nothing to obtain a missing variety and money seems to be no object. As a dealer I can probably comment with some degree of knowledge (as did Derek and Rob) on the popularity of Sixpences. They AREN'T! How times have changed! I remember in the late 60s, the humble tanner was a popular denomination. You can see its decline with the ratio that the 1923 6d holds in relation to its peers. While the 1924, 1925, 1926 halfcrown & florin, H & KN & ME pennies, have kept their ratio to commoner types in values, the 1923 6d has gradually dwindled. 1976 Seaby : most surrounding dates worth £5 in EF, 1923 = £16.50 2005 Spink : other dates between £12 to £15 in EF, 1923 = £20.

Blimey. Magnetius as Elvis is one thing, but that wallah must be Gene Vincent with a broken nose

Many thanks John Very very nice example All grades or just the best ones? The market is still absorbing Bole's collection with relatively few collectors interested in the denomination. Pity - I really like em.But I agree, they are a bit on the small side. Not even remotely rare except in top grade. I was lucky enough to get a complete set of BU 6ds from 1937-1967 for £60 (W&W late 90s) including the 1952. I think I sold most of them ... except the '52 of course

Hi Jackie It ccould be a contemporary forgery - i.e. a silvr coin made from bronze, then washed in silver. There were a lot of these from 1816-1820, but I don't suppose they stopped then.

Can you post a link pls?

Being too new to this site to have taken part in the previous heated discussions, and holding back a bit, I would like to say that as a collector I hate them with a passion, for many if not all the reasons eloquently articulated by others. The first one I bought that was slabbed was immediately broken out of it (carefully I might add, with the aid of a hammer and chisel). But I can see the point for sellers, investors and dealers, if their integrity survives ... I'm old enough to remember in the late 60s, coins were offered sealed into slabs of perspex (which is probably where the term "slab" originates from, as the modern type you wouldn't describe as a slab otherwise - it's more of a sealed case or holder). It was a brief fad that burned itself out pretty quick. One thing that they didn't come with, was a TPG 'authenticate and grade' service, which may have helped the early demise. What goes around comes around.

It would be worth bullion value is what I'm thinking (despite a low issue of 1000). 1/10 ounce I believe, so whatever that's currently worth in gold.

You're a what?

I hate em for the following reasons : 1. they artificially inflate the prices of the coins inside 2. if you have cabinets, they won't go in them any way you try 3. you can't see the surfaces in certain lights 4. hard to examine closely for minute varieties 5. can't see the edges 6. photography is a pig, scanning is impossible The other side : 1. preserved from the elements 2. you can see both sides at once without handling

I'd say one was definitely a V. My guess is that the other is H - with the crossbar slightly pointed to echo the point of the V. If it was an M, the point is in the wrong direction, and I simply cannot see an A there. Beautifully engraved though.

"JD" or "ID", I'm not sure which. The names James and Isaac were both fairly common back then so it could be either.

Yes there are Calvin, but they aint Billy and Mary. It's certainly some type of evasion but, unless anybody on here has more knowledge/experience than me, it would be impossible to pin it down. ??? One, surely - it's too central on the flan to be two. Where's the second head?

The R over I is actually fairly common - and it does seem likely that the I may have been used to strengthen the R, as has been suggested.

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Don't forget Chrome and Safari if you want your website to be viewed on all smartphones, most tablets, the majority of laptops, and even Macs. And while you're at it, there's Opera enthusiasts out there (I'm not talking about those wobbly-voiced sopranos who never seem to know which note they're singing ).

I see one in the mirror

You're welcome - I only found about this from 1887Jubilee who identified one of my 1887s as that! There are a few farthings where an I has been used to recut/strengthen the upright of a letter on a die, but there is a clear diagonal line on that one and also something just above the front foot of the R. They may just be cracks as a result of the strengthening, because I can not think of any other letter..but it may be worth a closer look!! Colin, read again - that picture IS of the R over V. Numismatist was talking about one of the other three (no picture?)

You're welcome - I only found about this from 1887Jubilee who identified one of my 1887s as that!

According to the types in Davies : it's definitely not Obverse 1 as the top of the ear is not visible it's definitely not Obverse 2 as the colon after the G of DG is too far away As to whether it's Obverse 3 or 4, the main indicator is the pointing of the first N in Britannia [coughs politely]. However, the shape of the hair drifting down from the chignon looks like Obverse 4 not 3. If that's the case then you're looking at somewhere between 1880 and 1887.

That sounds more like the R over I (apparently there's a lot of these.)

I've never regretted my early milled purchases, and my regret is not filling in many type gaps earlier when they were cheaper and I had money To me, their only downside is in the lack of variety of reverse designs. For a hundred years or more, all you got from crown down to sixpence was the quartered arms in shields (ok, there were roses and plumes and stuff like that, but you know what I mean); and on the coppers, just the same louche Britannia. Having said that, we didn't get rid of Britannia on all base metal coins until 1937.