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Oh yes, I keep forgetting that CC go 'recent -> older' unlike most other sellers. To be honest, their poor grading for Fine and below is a long standing thing. They always accept returns without quibble though, as did the man himself before he became late. But you're right, the eBay one is a bargain at half the price, and a better coin.

I do agree with you - eye appeal is everything. And if I had to choose between a GVF with attractive even tone, and EF with part lustre at 5 times the price, I know which one I'd go for! One thing though - I wouldn't dismiss an even black tone on a high grade item (I have an EF 1807 halfpenny that is a lovely dark almost black tone, and I love it). In relation to what, exactly? CC doesn't have a 1732, though they have a wide range of other GII dates from scruffy Fines to Unc.

That's just plain stupid. You virtually have to leave planet earth to avoid contact with 1887 shillings, though the large JH type are decidedly rare, sorry, non-existant. I've always thought that particular seller was one of the better ones. It just goes to show..

Nothing to suggest it is anything other than an I Agreed. The serifs on the cross bar of the T are angled, while the "serifs" here are right angles.

Die numbers? In 1893?? CGS and others catalogue the variants with Die numbers I don't think so!! But I note that ski has explained the difference between "die numbers" (which appear on the coin itself), and "die combinations" (i.e. obverse and reverse pairings, as used in Freeman, Peck, ESC, many other sources, and no doubt CGS also).

Yes, the search function is rubbish I think. Takes ages and then doesn't turn up what it should! For example, a search for 'charles shilling' finds nothing unless you search for 'charles I, shilling'. Who designed that!?!?! And I like to open lots in a new tab, but if I try that it just gives me the whole catalogue page again which wastes time. Quite frustrating. The same people who make 'Title' a mandatory field on an online form, or who allow you to enter credit card or National Insurance Numbers with the usual spaces in, then tell you there's an 'error'. Jeez. I was a computer programmer, so I know just how easy it is to remove spaces from an input field if you don't want them. But no, web form designers break the golden rule of IT - "NEVER EVER LET PROGRAMMERS DESIGN AN INTERFACE USED BY THE PUBLIC".

There was a thread recently by Mongo on exactly this topic. Can somebody link to it as I'm on my way out. I'm not aware of such a topic; I can see no other threads in this forum for some reason (it's set to show all). In the thread index, there's a dark blue/green top and bottom line. On the bottom line is a tiny white 'Click here to show filter options' button. If you click that, you can set parameters for what is displayed. One of the defaults is 'From the last 30 days'. As this particular sub-forum doesn't get posted in very often, probably no-one has made a new topic in the last month, which is why you don't see any. I noticed that yesterday, so I chose for it to show all, and set that as my default. Still nothing. That's the first parameter - there's 5 in all. The 4th is "Time frame" and that needs to be set longer than 30 days (at least, in this forum - others get posted to just about every day). I meant, where it said show threads from the past 30 days, I changed that to the longest duration. Yes, you're quite right - it must be a glitch in this sub-forum. There are glitches - for instance, the first thread when you visit most sub-forums takes you straight to the first unread post, but not in Free For All, which takes you to the last post, always.

Die numbers? In 1893??

There was a thread recently by Mongo on exactly this topic. Can somebody link to it as I'm on my way out. I'm not aware of such a topic; I can see no other threads in this forum for some reason (it's set to show all). In the thread index, there's a dark blue/green top and bottom line. On the bottom line is a tiny white 'Click here to show filter options' button. If you click that, you can set parameters for what is displayed. One of the defaults is 'From the last 30 days'. As this particular sub-forum doesn't get posted in very often, probably no-one has made a new topic in the last month, which is why you don't see any. I noticed that yesterday, so I chose for it to show all, and set that as my default. Still nothing. That's the first parameter - there's 5 in all. The 4th is "Time frame" and that needs to be set longer than 30 days (at least, in this forum - others get posted to just about every day).

There was a thread recently by Mongo on exactly this topic. Can somebody link to it as I'm on my way out. I'm not aware of such a topic; I can see no other threads in this forum for some reason (it's set to show all). In the thread index, there's a dark blue/green top and bottom line. On the bottom line is a tiny white 'Click here to show filter options' button. If you click that, you can set parameters for what is displayed. One of the defaults is 'From the last 30 days'. As this particular sub-forum doesn't get posted in very often, probably no-one has made a new topic in the last month, which is why you don't see any.

I have a nicely toned prooflike 1893, and I've long meant to look up which version it is, but as yet I haven't bothered.

Now what do we do? Presumably go into frenzied posting to make up for yesterday.................. unfortunately I've nothing to report LOL. I reloaded your first reply about 5 times yesterday Rob, as it seemed to be blank. Each reload took several minutes. NOW I see what you were up to!! Haha very funny.

Even if the "D" in DJMonty stands for "Dave", you're still safe with me Your chosen hobby is a good one, with a lot of enthusiasts. The small tub you have will hopefully kick-start your ambition to collect coins - you've had some good advice, I'll only add one thing : collect in the highest grade you can afford (and if you need any help in grading, that book in the advert above, "Grading British Coins", is a fantastic place to start, and well worth buying and perusing).

Predecimal has been horribly slow all day - it takes forever to reload the page or make a reply. All other sites seem ok, so it's not my computer or broadband. Have any of you noticed this snail's pace?

Very snarky. If he wants to guarantee a minimum price, why not put it on with a reserve? Sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it. As for pulling it, what is the latest you can pull a coin on eBay before the auction ends? I bet it's a lot later than 24 hours to go! An auction is an auction, for heaven's sake - you have to take the rough with the smooth. If he wants to avoid the rough, he should put his coins up for sale as BIN only.

Very snarky. If he wants to guarantee a minimum price, why not put it on with a reserve? Sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it. As for pulling it, what is the latest you can pull a coin on eBay before the auction ends? I bet it's a lot later than 24 hours to go! An auction is an auction, for heaven's sake - you have to take the rough with the smooth. If he wants to avoid the rough, he should put his coins up for sale as BIN only.

Or I have a sad vacuous life which I spend entirely on eating nothing but pizza while staring at a computer in my Mom's basement. Apple do an abacus app now? Sure! Excel started on Apple originally after all...

How on earth does the 'middle man' make any kind of profit? Considering the banks wouldn't be paying more than face value for coins they are handing over to the public at face value.

As Spink rates them extremely rare, I hardly think they're underestimated!

"Little actual wear"? Methinks the seller is a bit blinded by that psychedelic purple background

Wow, a range from GVF to a 'technical' mint state. We've never had such a wide range of opinion before! Just goes to show how particularly difficult the silver series from 1920 to 1926 is to grade accurately.

Here is a slide show that you might find interesting. http://www.usmint.gov/mint_tours/?action=vtShell Fascinating - thanks for that. For me, the most interesting part was how 'rough' the planchet looked after the rimming process and before being impressed with the design. Which proves that all the lustre comes from the die / strike and none from the planchet itself.

Do you have viber for the iphone Stuart? Freecalls to anyone and anywhere in the world if they also have it installed (like moi) also another good wee app is Touch (sounds all pornographic now) viber and touch lol Anyhoo Touch is like a free messenger and you can send small files/pics/sms/video etc to another touch user worldwide free of charge. 1926 GVF for me, wear to the Lions tail and nose as was poointed out. OBV being better then the REV I think you can set your iPhone to viber instead of ring if you're somewhere where a ring tone would be a nuisance

Yes, they were. And the word FARTHING is a bit of a giveaway as to the denomination! A few lustred examples seem to have slipped through for most years, but are sure it's genuine? There are many artificially lustred farthings.

Yes - a magnified scan knocks off up to a whole grade in my experience. So I'd say that was a clear EF. In hand it might prove even better.