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No it's not you. They've omitted to take pics of a good number, which is disappointing. Won't bid on something I can't see.

I agree Jerry, that one is far from convincing. Thanks Ian, that's interesting. It was Jack Relph who sold a number of other pennies on e bay back in June. I think I can say fairly conclusively that the F39A at least, was sold at the DNW auction, as it was a job lot of 1862 pennies (lot 981). Definitely the same coin as the one identified then. Not sure about the rest - with the exception of the F38 which I bought from him. That too was among that job lot of 1862's. Obviously, he could have combined coins from different sources. This is the e bay message I received from Jack at the time:-

Incidentally, I think the F39A at lot No 1981, is the same one as shown in this post from a month or two back (note the EK at 12 o'clock) . I reckon it was amongst those bought at DNW, most probably by Jack Relph of Coopers Coins. Quite plausibly the "remnants" (for want of a better word) of the Hiram Brown collection. Although the word remnants fails to do them justice.

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Some great buys there, Jerry, especially the 169 which is obviously an absolute sod to get. £500 was a bargain price.

The best 1921 I've seen was posted by @zookeeperz in May 2018. Although it is Obverse 3 (F191). Fully struck up both sides, with outstanding hair detail, it's probably one of the best, if not the best, you'll ever see. link to it

A bit later than I'd imagined. Thanks Chris.

Thanks gents.

I must admit I thought it was already 24%. What was it?

Funnily enough Bob, I was thinking of the situation in 1868 and 1869 when I posted.

A FOI request might well be worth a try. I've got a fair amount of useful info from the R M that way.

I believe it used to be the case that coins minted in any given calendar year formed the basis of that year's mintage figures. A complication could arise owing to coins being minted at the start of a given year, still bearing the previous year's date, thus distorting the mintage for the dated coin. To the best of my knowledge this practice was phased out at some point in the 20th century, but not sure precisely when.

That's a bit too logical for 2019, Chris. Well said though.

The correct mintage figure for the 1913 halfcrown is 4,090,169. I get my mintage figures from any Coin Yearbook. The 2020 one will be out soon - just google Token publishing. You can download one.

That's a much better photo of the coin, than the one dnw posted at the time of the Laurie Bamford auction - here Although far from the rarest of the 1861's, the F26 is quite difficult to get in high grade. Did you get it at the actual auction, Pete, or buy it later?

From the listing "Old.. used.. and has a charity shop smell" Not sure whether she's talking about the coins or herself......

Great opportunity here for the astute collector

I agree Terry, but if that first F27, which was a washer, essentially, could be ID'd as such, then there's maybe a chance for this. It certainly looks different. I'd advise the owner, @Zo Arms to refer the coin - in hand - to Michael Gouby (if he's willing and available) to possibly get a more definitive conclusion.

Here's another pic showing the date juxtaposed with a "normal" 3:-

The obvious danger being the conservative vote being split with the Brexit Party allowing Corbyn in by the back door. That's why it's essential we leave one way or the other.

Thanks Jerry - the coin belongs to another forum member/dealer. He asked me my opinion without saying what he'd spotted, and then asked if I would post it on the forum for him, as he has difficulty with posting photos. At first I thought was perhaps a die No under date, but immediately discounted that theory. The the possibility it might be a slender three struck me, and that was exactly what he'd thought as well. As you rightly say, the coin is very worn, which doesn't help.

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What do you make of these images, Gents - out of interest?

Boris - we knew it would be. What amuses me are those who vehemently oppose a no deal brexit, yet full well know that parliament will not accept the current deal, and the EU refuses to renegotiate. So what deal are they referring to? The puffed up self important arrogance of these idiots is something else. They speak a different language to everyone outside the M25 orbit.

Thanks gents, much appreciated.