Gary

Happy birthday RLC35 hope you have a good one all the best, Gary

:D:D Your bidder id is hidden to anyone who has not had dealings with you. I have you saved as a prefered seller and although I dont see your name in the actual item bidding I can see your feedback score and check it against my prefered sellers list!

Thanks for that. I have now ordered it and now eagerly await its arrival, xmas post willing! I'll blame you lot if I dont like it

If you bid 25 Euros it did not get through as I bid €22 and the next bid was €253!!!! I ony spotted it at 1min to go, and i attemped a snipe €25 to bid at 3 secs to go, maybe I was too late or it went in after than the €253. Was gobsmacked when it finished Yeah, I had to look twice at the end result, £215. i just wish I had that sort of cash to spend on my hobby

If you bid 25 Euros it did not get through as I bid €22 and the next bid was €253!!!!

It was a member of this forum........and I know who I got outbid as well but not suprisingly! Forgot you guys looked on the german ebay too!

Done! Look forward to recieving it can I then tear out years 1860-1901 from the original ?

Thanks for that, I suppose I will now have to order a copy. Just wanted to check that it was worth the £56 (with postage)

The book, The British Bronze Penny (Victoria) 1860 to 1901 from Micheal gouby, who has it and would you recommend it? Sounds interesting and I am thinking of getting a copy but would like your opinions. Thanks in advance. Gary.

Usually, gently washing with soap and water does the trick with silver coins and now we are back to the subject of coin cleaning

Sorry to start this thread up again but I would just like to throw in a point that no one seems to have mentioned. Coins are made of metal and most metals react to the enviroment that they are in, gold being the exception. By that I mean they oxidise in the atmosphere. Somebody mentioned that a cabinet was causing his coins to oxidise, this is possibly not true as I know John Nichols uses an inert wood. Fact is, its the air that gets into the cabinet that is the problem. Most of us keep our coins at home, the humidity goes up and down, we open windows and let in fresh air, the temperature goes up and down, there are impurities in the air that we let into the house, all this affects metal! Why else do museums keep thier coin collections in Enviromentaly controlled rooms with a constant humidity (low) and temperature. In my opinion the only way to store coins is to isolate them from the atmosphere around them, good quality coin capsules or self sealing 2x2 coin holders. A tip, put the coin on the radiator to warm it up before putting it into a capsule or holder this will ensure that the coin is perfectly dry and will create a small vacum within the capsule or holder after it has cooled down.

oh yes, and a big hello to Holger. Your english is certainly getting better, keep downing those pints and it will get even better

Thanks to everyone for your answers. I take it then that it is quite a normal occurrence, the 1 over 1 and the 4 over 4 but who has more than one example to compare.....not me! Thanks again. Gary

sorry, heres the whole coin...

Hello everyone, I have not been around for a while, sort of taking a break from coin collecting. However a friend of mine has obtained an 1849 penny, rare in its self but this one has the first 1 over a lower 1. Anyone have any idea if this will up the value? or is this the norm with 1849 Pennies? The only other 1849 penny that I can find on offer is a F+ example offered by a dealer in the UK for 500 pound! This one was apparently found in a german coin shop and he paid 25 Euros for it! How about that for a find!!!! Cheers, gary.

and the whole Obv.

hello Everyone, here is another 1861 Halfpenny that I recently recieved. As you can see from the photo`s the R of BRITT is very badly recut. Freemans 277 Obv.6 Rev. G happy easter Gary

Hi Holger, yes, I did mention that Chris is based in germany but it was a long time ago, you probably forgot All the best, Gary By the way, good photos .....

Thanks very much to the two of you, particulary to Red for taking the time and effort. After your tip about the Harp Strings I got myself a picture of a real Gothic Crown and compared the two. Something that may be helpfull in the future.... If you look behind the Shield at the background you see a pattern (Diagonal lines). On the real one this is orientated from bottom left running up to top right. On the fake it runs the other way, bottom left to top right...... Also the Harp its self is much finer on the real coin. Once again thank you for your opinions. Gary

hello everyone, I have not been here for a while so happy new year to you all. A german collector has asked for my opinion on this gothic crown that he has obtained. My first reaction was forgery.... However I thought I would just check with you lot as I am certainly no expert when it comes to crowns. The coin weighs and measures as it should do, 28,3 grams in weight and 39mm in diameter. The edge is plain. Colour looks to be ok. However on the rim of the coin you can see small cracks running around the edge, I have included a close up. the obv. looks very worn and to my eyes it is not natural wear and tear, looks almost like a worn die or weak strike. I know there is a white metal plain edge version but as all strikings of this coin were supposed to have been near enough Proofs then the cracking around the rim would suggest forgery? anyway have a look at the pics and I would be interested in your opinions, thanks, Gary.

I agree, F-67 Obv 6, Rev H. Heres mine, anyone want to give me a hundred plus?

Unfortunatly my truck is governed, max 90kmh so it could´nt have been me but yes I know what you mean.... It seems no matter how fast you go there´s always some joker who wants to overtake.... It`s even a tourist trade over here with the japenese and others, actualy booking holidays here in germany just to speed up and down the motorways in hired Merc´s. There are even firms that do package holidays with this in mind.... Germany is the only country with no speed limit for the motorway so if you want to race down the motorway in your sports car at 160 plus mph then take a holiday in germany.... just watch out for me in my truck though! As for "re-building the old knackered infrastructure in the East" the normal west german and anyone paying tax in the west is still paying the bill in the form of extra tax and thats nearly 20 years after reunification!! just a bit of useless info for you guys.

Unfortunatly cleaning of coins is rather commen place here in germany. I have bought many coins from the german Ebay site only to find that they have been cleaned. I once visited a local dealer and enquired about british coins, he dug out an album containing a collection of coins from Vic onwards. All the bronze and copper coins had been rubbed resulting in the high points being bright and shiny. When asked, he said he did it himself as they looked better that way..... needless to say I have not been back. I once had an old 5 Mark silver coin which I put up for sale on a german coin site. The coin was nicely toned, not tarnished. It did not sell, not even when I reduced the price to well below cat value. After months I got fed up and dipped it, relisted it, and it was gone within a week, strange.... Do not get me wrong, there are some good auction rooms and dealers in germany who do know what they are doing and believe it or not there are many good coins to be had. The problem with ebay is the majority of people selling coins are perhaps not in the know and believe it better, or more appealing to sell a shiny coin. Geordie, by the way Oldenburgh is spellt Oldenburg and we probably passed each other on the autobahn as thats my neck of the woods.......

Just a bit of additional info. The coins exhibiting the missing serifs also are missing the left hand foot of the X in REX. See Scans. 1st Scan- 1834, 2nd- 1837 and last Normal X As I mentioned before, the 1834 without the faults seems to be rarer of the two where as for the 1837 this is the other way round. Not that any 1837`s are commen.

Hi Josie, interesting! Does not look like a die fault to me. Too rounded and deliberate in my view. Unfortunatly I have no explaination as to the cause. If it were an overstrike ie. D over an O, then the crescent below the D would be larger (see photo). Perhaps I am wrong and it is just a fluke Die fault.