Rob

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I've got a 1960 VIP proof which I would do an exchange on assuming you had a problem free example duplicate date (excluding the common set dates for obvious reasons).

The question is, what was wrong with it? Maybe nothing, but dropping a point gave a bit of wiggle room for the future?

Could be anything. A mistake just means a random unintended punch. Doesn't have to be a number or a letter, or even the right way up.

4 over a partially cut 8 or S?

Probably no rim bruise

Those 3 you posted and Spink 638 could be different obv. 3s. The first I of BRIT is a bit bent to the right in the latter and the alignment of the second I and A in BRIT together with the bun curls relative to the R could be different too. If so, this condemns the RR obverse as a maundy die.

That's Spink 15006 lot 638 off my list.

Sorry, that was supposed to say obverse 2, not 3. I got it right in the list above as the two images are Aureo and Baldwin -doh. Easiest way for me is the number of border teeth. 8ish on obv 2 vs 11 or so on 3 between D and the colon after G is quite obvious.

These two might possibly be different obverse 3 dies. The serifs on the first I are different and there is possibly small differences in the bun area and the position of the legend relative to the border teeth from 3 to 5 o'clock. It might just be a different die state that has led to any changes. Ideally there will be flaws on two different dies that aren't represented on the other

I've got two different dies for sales listed as 1868 Maundy - 1 obverse 2 and 1 obverse 3. Obverse 2 has less than 8 beads from D to the colon after G, while obverse 3 has 11+ over the same D to colon. Obverse 3 has IT of BRIT parallel and misaligned wrt the R Ist type of obverse 2 found on WAG 43/186, Baldwins 77/2832 and Aureo 245/699 Obverse 3, Spink 9031/636, Spink 15006/638. Possibly DNW 92/241, but not clear. The pictures could be better on some which might indicate a different alignment on the obv.3 coins of the IT. I though I had 2 obverse 2s but the image was a composite. There might be 2 obverse 3s though.

They might all be the same Davies type, but different dies within that configuaration could exist. There could be two type 3s and one type two, one of each or three type 3s. We need to identify slight differences for nominally the same die to be certain.

I'm open minded about everything in the latest ESC given the lack of proof reading evident. How many 1868 maundy sets have people seen? As Nick said, there were allegedly 3 dies used which should be possible to identify. If it is possible to identify three non-RR dies, then the latter should reasonably be a currency die.

I would expect to see some sets with an example if they were issued in them. If you don't know of any, I would think it more likely they were currency. Also, what is the grade distribution? Most maundy coins didn't circulate, even in the fullness of time, so a maundy issue should be heavily skewed towards a high grade population, leaving aside the fact that people look for them.

A silver halfpenny in a milled silver post - what's wrong with that? Check your copy of Peck (2nd ed. p.200 refers) and read back what the description says.

I just look at the date.

And the reverse

P778. This is Peck's own piece which had the weight erroneously given as 157.3 grains. The weight is actually 115.7grains with the 1 footnote numeral taken from the weight and the footnote 3 numeral incorporated into the weight. Anyone with a copy of Peck will understand what I mean.

Probably from contact with something it was held in. There is nothing to be seen in hand, only when the flash is used. Polishing lines on the die tend to be obvious in hand and are raised in any case.

I picked it up in 2006. It's a real shame about the two small horizontal marks on the leg because those aside there isn't any wear to be seen. It is in the 'Too nice to sell' section of the collection.

It's right on the border with Austria. As Dave said - so many Chinese. We dropped in with daughter and partner on the way to Italy only to find that you had to book at least 2 days in advance. The large hotels/restaurants you can see at the bottom were fully booked by Asian tourist parties. Literally nowhere to sit down and eat. Wasn't like that when we went 30 years ago. Anyway, compensated by saying sod it and going for a beer at Andechs - see Dave's post somewhere on this one.

What sort of info are you looking for?

Rust spots on the knee make this a KH4 rather than a KH2. Given this came out of Baldwin's basement, which Peck had access to when compiling his tome, I suspect he must have missed a few.

KH4 silver pattern halfpenny, not in Peck