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These people aren't being dealt with properly. The correct response would be to leave them to it, but keep bringing them cups of tea. Come 3am when they're cramped up and desperately uncomfortable, sitting in a cold puddle of their own making they'd be begging to be released.

That'll do for me. Thanks Pete (I think it's Pete - we met at DNW a couple of years ago).

Baldwins bought the Deane collection in the 1940's or early 50's from my memory of their catalogue descriptions, so chances are that Peck would have seen this coin. I don't know if the earlier Deane ticket called it a proof, but it would certainly have been brought to Peck's attention if it was thought a proof at the time. It was an obvious currency strike to me - of course there are sometimes grey areas as to whether or not a coin is a proof, but this one was clear enough even at a glance. Look at the scaling above the breast for instance on the blown up LC photo. I think it fetched about £600 at the Bladwins sale.

An interesting and clear overmark on eBay, but really surprised to see it sell for £464 I don’t think I missed anything?

Thanks for input & sharing that guidebook. Yes I would agree that it is most likely 5b2. 👍