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Couple of things intrigue me, The person defending Clinton in the interview regarding the emails never once mention the email content, the illegal server or destroying of evidence, only stating they were obtained illegally and the Russians may be involved in supplying them to WikiLeaks, who subsequently had his email access blocked by Ecuadorian Embassy soon after the first leak, the same Embassy defending his rights to Freedom of speech by granting asylum from extradition to Sweden (allegations of indecent assault) and the USA (WikiLeaks charges), wonder what that cost Hillary. I don't think how they were obtained really matters at the moment, the part that does is the fact it shows the server used to be insecure and that classified information formed part of these email exchanges One recent release showed the Clinton Foundation has moved several $million to Qatar in the last few weeks, maybe they knew something was coming and are preparing the ground ready for a hasty retreat I think she has benefited from executive privileges claimed by Bill during his terms, and Obama is too busy thinking of his future to get involved

I think the coin looks slightly more worn in the CGS photos too, but I agree with IanB that it's a nice, straightforward honest coin that I would be happy with if it were mine. NEF for me on those second photos perhaps. I've probably got stricter since I've been reading this forum... Which brings me to the good point that Mick raises for relative beginners like himself and myself. When people like us buy from a reputable dealer such as the one who sold Mick this farthing and the coin is given a grade by them, we probably assume that their opinion of grade carries a certain amount of weight and isn't going to be miles away from what a TPG might say. We then probably look at some of the price guides for the coin in the grade and this will influence a purchase decision. I've bought a few coins from this same dealer, and am happy with the majority of them as objects to enjoy owning, but ... maybe they aren't really as described? And in no way is that dealer the most over-optimistic. I won't name names of some others!

The halfpenny's a little better:

A picture would be needed

I think there is no fee for a shop seller, you can list up to 500? coins a month, but if he put it on .com it then spreads over the other ebay domains if you search for the particular coin, i was looking up 1821 half crown and it came up with all 3 this was from .co.uk

Was just hearing this this morning Bob, it seems s**t sticks. The Clintons have their fingers in many back pockets and just because she is a nominee shouldn't make her excluded from a proper investigation, in fact, she should be thoroughly investigated because of the position that she's trying to get in to

Very nice too, Jon.

Trump currently as short as 9/4 in places following the recent vague Hilary email investigation announcements - my expectation is a cliffhanger

Sorry it's Manx again.

You are absolutely right. That is what the Americans would call MS60, isn't it?

Thank you for your opinions, I wouldn't imagine that exposure to light could do such a thing. It surely can. I once made the mistake of leaving two proof shillings in capsules near a south facing window for two weeks. One overlapped the other by a small margin, and when I came back from holiday there was a clearly defined area of tarnish.

Lustre is affected in all manner of different ways, dependent upon what comes into contact with the coin and the coin's reaction to the atmosphere around it. You get mottled lustre as shown on the 1889 penny above, streaky lustre, lustre on one side of the coin only, and lustre on different parts of the obverse and reverse, just randomly distributed. Sometimes you'll get a virtually uncirculated coin which has toned to the extent that the lustre has vanished, and other times you'll get a coin which has worn down to just VF, still with traces of lustre. Typically, of course, lustre lasts for longest in the lettering where it is most protected from contact with hands and surfaces, rather than on the field. Often difficult to pin down the precise reasons for a given lustre distribution in each case.

The footnote from the DNW lot.......In hindsight there is more B dies than quoted by Michael Freeman. I have to get mine re-attributed Die letter A is R17 and B is R18, although with more of the die letter B being found it would probably be more like R17 as with die letter A. As with silver in ESC, their rarities are higher in higher grades (an assumption though) Footnote Michael Freeman’s 2006 rarity rating of “6-15” specimens known may, with the benefit of hindsight, be regarded as a slight underestimate. At least 9 other examples, mostly in fine condition or less, have been offered at auction since 2006. However, the present piece outgrades by a considerable margin every other 1862 halfpenny with a die letter seen in commerce. The only pieces that in any way approach this one for grade are two with the more frequently met with die letter A (’Cheshire’ Collection, Goldberg, 30 May 2005, 3107, $2,700; London Coins, 1 March 2009, 555, £1,700)

I was sweating today Pete, DHL came and only gave me a packet for the boss and some Coldplay concert tickets, but i had notice that it was on his van, i even showed him and he said he didn't have it. I checked 40 mins later the email notice and it said it had been delivered which then got my head going, i went to the postbox and there was another 2 packets......Sweat off

You will need a copy of Derek Allen's Grading Guide, Freeman - bronze, Davies - silver and Dave Groom's silver and bronze books to act as references. Stick your nose into them and learn the identifiers thoroughly and you are set up to collect.