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I'm not the expert on these, but that looks like Lauer toy money.

Can anyone tell me anything about this coin please?

Do any of you guys have access to the old CGS UK listings? I'd like to research a number just out of interest. 0017964

Happy Days. I think I will have a few pints in the local tonight. Given their pricing, it is clear evidence of the cost of nationwide advertsiing in papers and TV is not insubstantial - or someone has run off with the bank account funds. I would go further than no great loss, as it removes a source of overpriced material sold to people with a limited grasp on coin prices, and as an afterthought, maybe the recent IHT adjustments for pensions etc has led to the wealthy gullible reviewing their methods for passing on things to the descendants.

London Mint Office has now gone bankrupt. Sad for those who have lost their jobs, but no great loss otherwise.

You're completely right... In their case, industrial grading speeds and quality simply cannot coexist. This is one of the most glaring mistakes I’ve ever come across, but I don’t often buy slabbed coins, so there are bound to be others. I’ve seen adverts for their cleaning service, but I haven’t actually seen any for a while now...

I am working on a colonial coin type collection which includes many foreign coins, including British. Recently I found a small book titled 'The Coins of Colonial America' which basically listed and illustrated coins found when the grounds of our colonial Williamsburg were dug up. My current collection has the George III embossed 8 Reale and 4 Reale coins (oval stamp) and i thought that was it. However, the book showed a set of 4 coins: 1 Reale, 2 Reale, 4 Reale and 8 Reale each with the oval embossement. My copy of the 'Coins of England', 2025, does not show the two lower denomination coins. So, i'm asking here: why not? what is the story? the photo shows the book's illustration.

Truth is, we'll likely never know the story of this but almost definitely some sort of marketing effort given the style of the stamp. The surname has strong Cornish roots, but only 'famous' merchant of that era is William Hearne Pellow, head of a mercantile firm in Liverpool. Here are some details from an archive: https://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/kirkdalecemetery2.html

I would love to say many a numismatist would practically kill for a coin like that , don't turn your back if your showing it off . LOL

Ignorance is bliss. There is a raised line on the hull, it just happens to be the ship's handrail running from bow to stern. Mine is very prominent in hand. The atttribution presumaby coming from a phrase search of their limited literature. At the end of the day, it is a business boxing above its weight in terms of knowledge when claiming to be all things to all people and (like Trump) never wrong - hence many fictitious attributions and for knowledgable people, just used as a pointer toward a potentially decent coin. However, an unquestionable marketing success. I don't know if they still offer a cleaning service, but it seems to have laid low after I questioned why they were so intent on selling 'unsightly' wax removal given it was historical evidence of past illustration in early catalogues.

Nice if you can get them, but Hobson's Choice requires my collection to have more than a few dogs hidden away. Still, mustn't grumble as I've done ok over the years.

Will do. And thanks for the suggestion on the settings.

For now you can just rename your files by changing the jfif suffix to jpg. For the future I recommend changing your iPhone camera capture setting to "most compatible", which means jpg.

Thanks. I do find it annoying that Apple decided to make all photos taken with their phones .jfif files (and claim everything can deal with it!). This site isn't the only one that can't handle them.

These are the pics as jpg. I don't think the forum can handle jfif images.

Thanks for the feedback. It should have been just the pictures that were uploaded. Trying again.111b1d9f-2dd7-416d-8bae-05c5ed82a317.jfifdbe01330-61cb-40d7-aaf2-f6d3e6b08be9.jfif

It's probably an advertising or love token, both of which were popular in the 19th century, but I won't click on links like those on a public forum. Could you please upload the pictures rather than links?

I have a George IV silver crown, dated 1822, and on both sides is has impressed into it the words/name W H PELLOW. What does this signify and why was it done? 617632e9-62da-4c82-a94b-e0abc6255e69.jfif ecf576c4-8b43-4f37-a709-89a329e86ab3.jfif

Brilliant, on both counts! re the hammered, there has been so many monyers and dies, across so many cities, with Bishops and emergency coinage, etc., etc., that new varieties are appearing all the time! However, mostly, with hammered, it’s still grade and eye-appeal that remains king, and it appears that most people pick that up quite quickly, unfortunately! One caveat to this is of course finding something in the ground that’s historically unknown for a mint or king, then you might be on to something…this seems to happen quite frequently with the early medieval period.

And they also wrote "Raised line on hull" on the ticket...

It really annoys me that the slabbers call the coin a 1/2 p for gods sake its a 1/2 D

Its come a long way already, I have been leaving the coin in direct sunlight with fresh air flow sat on a manilla envelope. In less than 6 months it has already taken on alot of toning.

Thanks ! In the hammered coinage there must be some varieties that command the higher premiums? For this coin I think it was mostly right place right time with alot of luck. It kind of fell into my possesion. Initially I did not find the variety, I found the coin then researched the varieties for the type. This was my first find and possibly the best to date.. You can see why and how I become totally consumed by penny varieties. Then shortly after the 1877 F90. Since then I have found many decent coins but not quite of the same calibre of those two. It was enough to be hooked for life and invest more time to learn all I can. I feel now I have run out of avenues for prospection, I find myself looking over the same coins for sale.

I’d be leaving that somewhere where it could acquire a rich, deep, even brown tone.

Excellent, still can’t believe it Well done, a phenomenal acquisition. I wish hammered varieties were as profitable. 👏👏