Query on 1862 Victoria Bronze Penny Varianta

[bhx7]

Hi All,

I am brand new to the forums as I have just started up the hobby again after 20 years and was told this is the place to find the best knowledge base. I have a couple of 1862 Victorian pennies which both have some considerable differences. Not sure what I have as I can't seem to find any variants that match. Coin one has no hair between the ribbon and the back of her neck, Coin 2 has a very strong triangular section of hair with multiple strands. Coin 2 has what appears to be a standard date, Coin 1's date has a much larger gap between the 6 and 2. Can anyone help me with identification. I have added photo's.

I also noticed that on coin 1 there is an extra raised section from her head to the outer rim almost on the same angle as the "B" from BRITT. Maybe a die crack causing a ridge?

Please see second date in next post!

Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you all so much in advance

[bhx7]

Here is the 4th image showing coin 2's date.

[jelida]

Hi bhx and welcome to the forum.

What you have behind the bust on the second coin is the result of a die clash , where a reverse die has caused indentation of the obverse die, this then showing on coins struck therafter. The pattern is due to an impression of part of Britannia's dress. These die clashes are quite commonly seen, and dont alter the value of the coin.

Date spacing of the final digit is quite variable as they were entered by hand. Some collectors do try to acquire examples of the extreme variations, but again the prices are not usually any different.

Jerry

[PWA 1967]

Hi bhx.

Welcome to the forum a lot of knowledgeable penny guys who have always been willing to help me.

Jelida has got that spot on for you.

Pete.

[bhx7]

Thank you both. Very much appreciated. I like variants and variation's so am happy that I can now state why this has happened and how.

I am looking forward to more discussion's and to learning more. I am sure like most, as far as this hobby is concerned, I will be learning for the rest

of my life.

Cheers

Brian